School has “separate but equal” prom because gays have “no purpose” in life

UPDATE: Seems separate-but-equal prom is generating some bad publicity for Hate-ville, Indiana.   Students, parents and teachers at Sullivan High School in Sullivan, Indiana are upset that gay couples might come to their prom, and that’s a bad thing.

So they’re planning their own separate-but-equal “traditional prom” where, just like in the olden days, closeted gay and lesbian teens will attend with beards who later can’t understand why their dates refuse to put out.

Ah, tradition.

Segregated drinking fountain in North Carolina. Photo via Library of Congress (John Vachon for U.S. Farm Security Administration).

Segregated drinking fountain in North Carolina. Photo via Library of Congress (John Vachon for U.S. Farm Security Administration).

From a video posted on the MyWabashValley Web site, we hear from Diana Medley, a special education teacher in town who supports the separate-but-equal prom:

REPORTER: You know, the gay person, do you consider them, maybe, they have some sort of purpose in life?

DIANA MEDLEY: I don’t. I personally don’t, I’m sorry.  I just, I don’t understand it.

More from Medley, via the new story at the same link:

Diana Medley, special ed teacher in town who supports separate-but-equal prom, and who doesn't hink gays have "a purpose" in life.

Diana Medley, special ed teacher in town who supports separate-but-equal prom, and who doesn’t think gays have “a purpose” in life.

Diana Medley is a special education teacher in town. She doesn’t believe anyone is born gay.

“I believe that it was life circumstances and they chose to be that way; God created everyone equal,” said Medley.

“Homosexual students come to me with their problems, and I don’t agree with them, but I care about them. It’s the same thing with my special needs kids, I think God puts everyone in our lives for a reason,” said Madley.

Actually, “traditionally” we didn’t let inter-racial couples go to prom either.  So let’s be clear what this is really about.  It’s not about tradition. It’s about hate and bigotry and discrimination and homophobia.

gay-promThough my favorite quote from the video goes to a local pastor  supporting the anti-gay prom movement, Bill Phegley from the Carlisle Church.  The article cleaned up his quote.  But if you watch the video, it’s quite a different quote, and telling. And I quote, verbatim:

“Christians always been prepared for a fight. But Jesus Christ give us armor for the front, not the back, we aren’t runnin’ no more.”

And mind you, this is the way Phegley speaks on camera during a TV interview, which is usually when people speak at their most formal.

I’m not poking fun at the man.  Hardly.  I’m suggesting that ignorance, as always, is the root of all hate.

One final note.  I will that I was surprised, and pleased, by this post over at Red State, one of the lead conservative blogs. While I’ve found a good number of the top conservative bloggers to be quite good on gay issues, Red State’s Erick Erickson has been a bit of an outlier (read: bigot).  So it was nice to see Breeanne Howe write a diary on Red State about this topic that’s pretty darn good. Here’s a bit of her piece:

Local pastors have also shown support for the anti-gay prom. Of course anyone that is actually familiar with the Bible knows that what this group is proposing could not be further from the mission of Jesus.

Yes, in Matthew 19:4-5, Jesus reaffirms the Old Testament truth that marriage is between one man and one woman. The Bible also states in Leviticus 18:22 that to practice homosexuality is a sin. However, overwhelmingly throughout his life Jesus made clear that he came with a message of love for all. In fact, Luke 5:32 tell us:

I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.

Further, it was the sinners with which Jesus broke bread. He admonished the Pharisees for their belief that they were better than others and without sin. Clearly holy huddles were not Jesus’ style. From the prostitute Mary Magdalene to Judas, the man whose betrayal would lead to him on the cross, Jesus excluded no one. Had he excluded sinners, Jesus would have found himself alone; because the fact is that no one, including folks in Sullivan, Indiana, is without sin. Lest certain groups think their sins are less than the sins of others, the Bible is clear on that issue as well. Romans 3:23 states, “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” And is the result of sin different depending on the sin? No, Romans goes on to explain in verse 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.” All sin leads to the same place, separation from God. Through Christ alone we are saved.

Those in Sullivan should be ashamed of themselves. Not only are they completely misrepresenting how Christians should behave, but they are giving those that haven’t had the opportunity to know Jesus a horrible and wrong impression of his word.

Yes, she quotes the anti-gay Bible stuff (and I’m pretty sure Jesus himself didn’t affirm anything about homosexuality.)  But she gets two points for standing up to the bigots.  And that’s not nothing.

Here’s the entire news broadcast (h/t New Civil Rights Movement):

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63 Responses to “School has “separate but equal” prom because gays have “no purpose” in life”

  1. Ninong says:

    They say they want the school to offer the students the choice of a gay-less prom (which they call a “traditional” prom) or a sinful prom (with gays). They think that if offered such a choice, most students would choose to attend the gay-less prom. Apparently they mean that if anyone was gay and wanted to attend their gay-less prom, he or she would be required to attend with an opposite-sex date and not act gay in any way. You know, like it was back in the 1950’s.

  2. BeccaM says:

    Thanks for the language lesson, Ninong. I do appreciate it.

  3. Ninong says:

    “Of the same kind” is a scientific term in Creation Science. There is no taxonomy because they don’t believe in the evil evolution, which was invented by satan.

  4. Ninong says:

    The letter ‘J’ did not exist in Latin, Greek or Hebrew at that time, so no need to worry about it being too close to Jedi.

  5. Ninong says:

    “From the prostitute Mary Magdalene to Judas…”

    Breeanne Howe will be happy to know that absolutely nowhere in the Bible is Mary Magdalene called a prostitute. Or an adulterer. Or a sinner.

    The Bible says she was the first person Jesus appeared to after the Resurrection and that he had previously cleansed her of seven demons. She is described as one of his disciples. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that she was the same Mary who washed and annointed Jesus’ feet.

    Mary Magdalene and John the Beloved were the only disciples present at the crucifixion. Even the Catholic Church finally fixed this confusion more than fifty years ago but they didn’t say much about it at the time because they were the ones who caused the mixup in the late 6th century. Apparently they forgot to send the memo to the Orthodox Christians, Anglicans, Lutherans, Baptists and others who are still confused on this point.

    If you ask the Catholic Church now, they will admit that Pope Gregory the Great was in error in 591 when he confused Mary Magdalene with another Mary in the Bible. They were two different women, according to current official interpretation by the church that called her a prostitute in the first place.

  6. Ninong says:

    “Not one of them sees the irony in this assertion, because Yeshua bin Yusef (the ancient Hebrew language did not have the letter J — the name ‘Jesus Christ’ is a Greek invention).”


    There was no letter ‘J’ in either Greek or Latin at that time. The letters INRI on the cross stand for IESVS NAZARENVS REX IVDAEORVM. Translates as Jesus, the Nazarene, King of the Jews. Notice that I used only capital letters because lower case letters had not been invented yet. And I used ‘V’ for the letter ‘U’ because that’s the way the letter ‘U’ was written before the invention of the letter ‘v’, which represented the consonantal version of the vowel ‘u’.

    The letter ‘j’ was invented as the consonantal version of the vowel ‘i’ but before that time all they had was ‘i’. The letters ‘j’, ‘v’ and ‘w’ were not added to the Latin alphabet until more than 1,000 years later.

  7. Butch1 says:

    ” No purpose in life . . .” Don’t you just love people who are so narrow minded that love to play god?

  8. eborock says:

    I know, it’s such passive-aggressive nonsense when they say things like that. And we’ve heard it before, haven’t we? “I don’t hate black people…I have black friends.” “I have no problem with women working as long as they perform female roles.” I’d rather they be honest about their hatred instead.

  9. 1jetpackangel says:

    I’m reminded of when my Southern Baptist stepdad made me read “Pilgrim’s Progress” when I was a kid. The protagonist, Christian, was given (I think; it’s been a while) a helmet, sword, shield, breastplate, and I guess those Roman armored sandal things or something like that–my brain wants to say “feet fitted in the readiness of the gospel of peace,” whatever that is, but I think I remember the illustrations showing Roman soldier-sandals)–but no backplate, because if he had a backplate then that might give him the idea to run. And running means you don’t trust God to give you the power to win. So when Christian’s scrawny little ass got into a fight with anything, his chances of survival (based on his armor, not on God) were higher so long as he faced his opponent and kept swinging.

  10. DJ Shiva says:

    To be fair, the school in question actually has an open prom policy, which is what started this hoopla in the first place. And the teacher speaking out is NOT a teacher at that school.

    The school, in this case, is in the right this time.

  11. karmanot says:

    We’ll settle for assorted Cheeses.

  12. karmanot says:

    And we infiltrate at all levels by looking like real folk. We even live next door, do your taxes, fix your teeth, take out your gallbladder, preach your Jesus with a wide stance, fix your cars, design the crap you buy at WAL*MART, cut your grass, teach your kids—–we are everywhere. Some of us are EVEN REPUBLICANS. Be afraid, be very afraid.

  13. I have a question that I haven’t seen addressed. I can’t tell the answer from any of the articles on this. Are these Christian Students planning on having a separate prom ON THE SAME NIGHT as the school prom? Or are they going to attend the school prom, and then have their own on another night?

  14. karmanot says:

    She chose to be hetrosexual, poor thing. If she had a gay friend to help her pick a Pron gown, she might have been chosen ( Jesus willing) Prom Queen.

  15. BeccaM says:

    Thanks for the correction. I always appreciate getting the right info.

  16. Liberal Art says:

    hard to argue with any Tom Servo reference… “watch out for snakes!!”

  17. karmanot says:

    “Every one is exactly like every other of the same kind.” Somehow the instrument ‘Kazoo’ brings to mind Diana Medley.

  18. MaryJOGrady says:

    Well, actually, it was the Portuguese in the case of Bombay, but you are right otherwise.

  19. MaryJOGrady says:

    Indeed, I’d love to see the reaction of the proud disabled activists of ADAPT to her pitiful piety.

  20. karmanot says:

    Hell, I’d just get a taser.

  21. BeccaM says:

    Yes, actually. It wasn’t necessary. But Greek scribes, who felt they were writing only for other Greek scribes, felt free to change names and words to whatever they liked.

    The British did the same thing with the names of the countries and cities they invaded and occupied during their Empire days. Ever wonder why ‘Bombay’ is now Mumbai? Because the Brits, hearing the local name, decided to make it more convenient for themselves, and never mind the people actually living there.

  22. karmanot says:

    ‘Phegley’, sounds like that glob in the back of my throat.

  23. karmanot says:

    “being shoved down their throats.” Brings to mind the phrase, “Gag a maggot.”

  24. Thom Watson says:

    And the special education teacher who’s been the focus in the news doesn’t even teach at that school or in that district.

  25. karmanot says:

    Yep, they have no purpose.

  26. Thom Watson says:

    She’s not actually even a teacher at that school or in that district; the school is in the southern district, while she teaches in the northern district.

  27. karmanot says:

    Armadillos for Jesus!

  28. karmanot says:

    I seriously doubt Becca that these people understand what a corollary is except that it involves cholorstol. I would agree that their hardened hearts could use a stint.

  29. karmanot says:

    Ms. Medley is an asshole. Her view of ‘special needs people’ is as digusting as her ignorant. bigoted Christian nonsense. I say ‘Unique humans’—period. I pity any kids who fall into to her pity net.

  30. So transliterating a Hebrew name into Greek is “invention”?

  31. Hue-Man says:

    When I first heard this story, I was reminded of “Prom Night in Mississippi” the HBO documentary about the first racially-integrated prom (funded by Morgan Freeman for his hometown) in Charleston, MS, in 2009.

    Wiki: “The film brought some racial tension to the town of Charleston, mostly from the parents and school authorities concerned with “tradition and security issues”, with a group of parents planning a separate prom for white students only.”

  32. karmanot says:

    “I’m not poking fun at the man.” Oh go ahead, but not in front cuz he ‘s wearing his Christian armor, go the back route because he left his closet door open.

  33. BeccaM says:

    If the past testimony and legal arguments are any indication, that’s exactly what they’ll do.

    So far, they keep pinning their reasoning on the notion of procreation — which means they’re simultaneously arguing against allowing infertile hetero couples to marry under civil law. With the corollary implied assertion that it’s bad not to be a couple’s biological child.

  34. BeccaM says:

    Funny how they always seem to invoke the homoerotic imagery, huh?

    I invariably giggle whenever I hear the ‘phobes complain about the “gay agenda” being shoved down their throats.

  35. BeccaM says:

    Breaking news: Diana Medley is a homophobic ignoramus who ought to have her teaching certificate rescinded. And Pastor Bill Phegley pines in broken English for the good old days of Christian warriors, the Crusades, when unbelievers and heretics, witches and gay people were tortured and burned to death — all in the name of Jesus.

    Y’know, it’s funny. I love pointing out how those who point to Leviticus for justification in hating LGBT folks, for saying that being gay is morally wrong, are utter hypocrites to pick out that one thing and leave out all the other rules. Cheeseburgers, shrimp, and pork are clearly and unambiguously labeled as ‘abominations’ (in the current English sloppy translation of those ancient words). So then many of ’em jump to the New Testament and try to say that, for example, Jesus affirmed ‘traditional’ marriage and so did Paul/Saul of Tarsus.

    (Paul/Saul also affirmed traditional slavery…but I digress.)

    Not one of them sees the irony in this assertion, because Yeshua bin Yusef (the ancient Hebrew language did not have the letter J — the name ‘Jesus Christ’ is a Greek invention) and Saul could not have conceived at all of modern marriage and emancipated women, freed from the requirement they marry whomever their father or other male relative picked for them. Traditional marriage as it was defined two thousand years ago was a guy going to a young woman’s father and essentially buying this daughter to be his wife. There was no love or romance necessarily involved in the transaction, and certainly no free will on the part of the young woman unless her father was a softie.

    Let me put this another way: A man and a woman choosing to marry each other simply because they want to, with no dowry being paid, is not traditional ‘biblical’ marriage at all. Government and/or Church regulation of marriage isn’t traditional either. The Ten Commandments make it clear that women share equal status with other items of property belonging to men, including farm animals and slaves. Nothing in the Bible — Old Testament or New — rescinds or modifies the chattel property status of human females. (Nor does it ever say that slavery is morally wrong…again, digressing.)

    Breeanne Howe’s post is rather nicely put, even if I also take issue with her citing the anti-gay stuff. For Christians, the four books dealing directly (and often contradictory) with what Jesus supposedly said — the Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John — are supposed to take precedence over everything else in the Bible. Top among these messages were not to make a public show of your faith, but to pray quietly. Not to judge anyone for any perceived moral slight, because such was entirely in the hands of God. And most of all to treat everybody else like you yourself would like to be treated.

    Somehow I think that being burned alive isn’t something any sane person would want for themselves. Nor do I think anyone would want to be hated for not having the same religion as the prevailing local majority. Nor hated for some other aspect of themselves which was not chosen but biologically determined.

    The Catholic Church used to say it was heresy to believe in heliocentricity, and claimed that Genesis was proof enough otherwise. Science proved again and again the Church was wrong. Eventually they stopped denying astronomical reality. Modern science has proven that sexual orientation and gender identity are not a choice — yet these homophobes and bigots continue to claim that being LGBT is both a choice and morally wrong.

    Clearly we have a long way to go before these science- and reality-denying bigots are as ridiculed as anybody today so foolish and uneducated to believe in objectively false pre-medieval cosmology.

  36. Well, you say they’re powerless and vulnerable, but that’s what they want you to believe. Instead they’re guerrilla fighters and partisans in the vast Gay Agenda(TM) army.

  37. The implications of her statement are alarming for multiple reasons. It bring a couple of things to mind, actually…

    NARRATOR: The best [musical] instruments are uniform. Every one is exactly like every other of the same kind.

    TOM SERVO: “Just like you and me!”

    Also this:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident!” [Meg Murry] shouted, “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” …Then she realized that Charles Wallace was speaking, or being spoken through by IT.

    “But that’s exactly what we have on Camazotz. Complete equality. Everybody exactly alike.”

    For a moment her brain reeled with confusion. Then came a moment of blazing truth. “No!” she cried triumphantly. “Like and equal are not the same thing at all!”

    It really does seem that Ms. Medley believes that being “created equal” refers not so much to equality in any abstract and universal sense but rather sameness. We emerge into the world with a certain set of social and behavioral norms, like computers all set up with the same operating system, and any deviation from those norms represents a degradation, a loss of sameness and therefore in Ms. Medley’s eyes a loss of what she thinks of as equality.

    The thing is, I was under the impression that the concept of equality before God had nothing to do with whatever you’ve done as a person and everything to do with being, simply, a person. We’re all brothers and sisters with one Father, right? (I’m not saying I believe as much; I’m just trying to give my understanding of the concept.) Leave theology out of it and we’re still left with the powerful concept of equality before the law. Now we all know that both these concepts have taken a serious beating from time to time but, still, the ideals are there, fixed (supposedly) and axiomatic. Ms. Medley is saying outright that no such ideal of universal equality exists. Because homosexual persons have ostensibly forfeited their equality before God by their sinful actions, they also have forfeited equality before the law and deserve to be exiled from what is supposed to be a celebration open to all students. Even if you accept this astonishing premise, doesn’t that mean that other students ought to be kicked out as well for being sinners? Somehow I doubt Ms. Medley believes that (say) the kid who got caught cheating on his algebra midterm has broken the terms of his equality the same way as those icky queers. The cheater gets to go to the real prom still, I’m sure.

    That’s a lot of words to say a simple thing: even if homosexuality is purely a matter of choice and a willful sin, does not the homosexual student deserve equal treatment anyway under any legitimate notion of equality?

    Isn’t being a Bible thumper purely a matter of choice, anyway? Why should her choice get special regard?

    It gets even worse than that! Ms. Medley puts homosexual students in the same category as her special needs students–objects to be pitied, really. Surely Ms. Medley isn’t suggesting that being born with a developmental disability is a voluntary forfeiture of equality in the same way? Certainly the implication is there: being either gay or disable makes you a second-class human.

  38. She should also be banned from using a computer to teach or disseminate her views. A gay guy invented computer science, so it must not have any purpose.

  39. Nothing proves the superiority of an adult authority figure’s morality like waging an armed conflict against the most despised, powerless, and vulnerable children in their local high school, apparently…

  40. Diana Medley: “It’s really quite simple. I define myself as the standard of human perfection, believe that God creates everyone equal, and therefore, people different than I am must not actually exist. But I need to create a special prom to exclude those different people who don’t actually exist. ‘Cause Jesus.” I hope the defenders of Prop 8 and DOMA at the Supreme Court employ logic as dazzling in their arguments…

  41. Pro Forma says:

    The comment is atrocious. Can you imagine the uproar there’d be if any other group were put into the equation? “I don’t think Jews have any purpose”? “I don’t think blacks have any purpose”? But I’m also left wondering why the question was asked in the first place. Since when does an ignorant Indiana resident have the right to determine who does or does not have a purpose in life? The absolute hubris (which I’m sure is a sin per the Christian faith) is absolutely astounding.

  42. S1AMER says:

    Maybe we need stories like this to remind us that, for all the giant steps we’ve taken in recent years, we still have far, far to go in some parts of the country.

  43. Don Chandler says:

    The best armor is to know thyself.

  44. nicho says:

    I debated that. Jesi was too close to Jedi. But then that would be interesting.

  45. samiinh says:

    It would appear she’s chosen to be an ignorant bigot.

  46. SkippyFlipjack says:

    This lack of armor in the back — does he mention it because he’s scared of someone pouncing on him via the backside?

  47. Badgerote says:

    What can one say about this? It makes rather clear that the objections to equal rights for gays is not based on any kind of objective harm to society that can be identified but rather to an attitude of bigotry as in ‘they have no purpose’ and ‘we’re not runnin’ anymore’ (as if heterosexuality is somehow under attack just because the law would not allow you to make life miserable for gays). And they do have that kind of armor (see chastity belt) but it is from the MIDDLES AGES!!!!!!

  48. Stev84 says:

    Also note the usual “We love gay people, but we don’t accept them doing any gay acts” bullshit. Christians truly don’t know what love means. They are the masters of doublespeak. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Hate is love.

  49. Stev84 says:

    Yeah, this should be made more clear everywhere. The school knows what the law is. Unfortunately many articles have implied that it’s them who want to ban gay students.

  50. TuxedoCartman says:

    I thought the plural of Jesus was Jesi? Maybe Jeese?

  51. nicho says:

    Well, one of the Jesuses in the NT does tell his followers to buy at least one sword. Another Jesus tells them not to. It’s so confusing.

  52. UncleBucky says:

    Well, someone who is going to suffer from these fundies/thumpers one way or another needs to blast the closet doors open at that prom. Condemned if you don’t (the fundies “know you are” gay) and condemned if you do (they’re lying in wait for you do to take a stand). So, what is needed here is daylight. GLAAD, PFLAG and all need to photograph, video and record the voices of the intolerant. Watch how they will then recede to the shadows, like vampires confronted with a cross.

  53. UncleBucky says:

    The poor, sick, mentally/physically handicapped, “colored” and LGBT people have chosen all that… Yeah. And so this teacher has therefore chosen to be white, straight, and saved (or she has determined herself that her sky god has saved her – same thing)…

    These fundies/thumpers are dangerous to society. That is all.

  54. UncleBucky says:

    Jesus gives them armor and weapons. Jesus leads them and tells them what to do.

    How? ;o)

  55. Isn’t a traditional prom in the south just a bunch of drunks on moonshine with half the girls pregnant, the other half having dropped out, already unemployed from the factory job that got shipped overseas due to the republican they voted in office, leaving them sitting on the couch all day collecting welfare benefits while complaining about others that do? Enjoy!

  56. Liberal Art says:

    “No one is born gay because god creates everyone equal.”

    Clearly, she must use her position as a special ed teacher to help those who’ve “chosen” a retarded or autistic lifestyle in defiance of god’s plan.

  57. HermeticallySealed says:

    This is not the school trying to push for this, it is a handful of parents and a wacked out ‘special needs’ teacher. The school, and the majority of teachers and students, are all for an inclusive prom.

  58. caphillprof says:

    My understanding is, and I think we should note, that the school itself is NOT seeking ,to exclude anybody from the prom. This is a group of parents, some ministers and one rather odd teacher. Also this is a community of only 4,200 about 27 miles south of the metropolis of Terre Haute, so the prom would be rather small to begin with.

    And it would be hard to have a “traditional” prom without one or more very, very closeted homosexuals in attendance. I wonder who they can find to fit that role today? If they invited them would they come?

  59. “Christians always been prepared for a fight. But Jesus Christ give us armor for the front, not the back, we aren’t runnin’ no more.”

    *groans* This is hardly the first time I’ve heard this talk of “armor” from a Jesus freak. Pretty sure there was a lot of it in “Jesus Camp”, for instance. I just can’t imagine going through life thinking that you’re surrounded on all sides with enemies against whom you need to “armor” yourself. Shouldn’t spirituality be an expansive, liberating force? Something that make the world seem brighter? (Sorry, it’s really early and I haven’t had much sleep or any coffee, under which circumstances I am bound to get florid.) Evangelical spiritual seems entirely the opposite. Your world narrows and darkens, you trust fewer and fewer people. It seems like a very uncomfortable trap. No wonder so many of these Bible-thumpers hope Jesus is coming soon to whisk them away.

  60. pburns says:

    Wow, that is a truly disgusting comment, especially coming from a special ed teacher.

  61. Randy Riddle says:

    This shouldn’t be surprising. Some towns in the South still have separate proms for blacks and whites.

  62. Aggiecowboy says:

    Well, at least the bigots’ “traditional prom” doesn’t have school sanction or support. The High School was blind-sided and got caught in the middle. Hope they take disciplinary action against that “teacher”. If I had a child in her class, I’ll be pulling him/her. She has no business working with special ed children…or any children for that matter.

  63. Derek Northcote says:

    “…..gays have “no purpose” in life”

    I hope they remember that if they ever get ill and are confronted by a gay Doctor.

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