Gay marriage legalized in Pennsylvania by Santorum’s judge!

It’s happened again. Another day, another state has legalized gay marriage. This time, Pennsylvania.

In a lawsuit brought by the ACLU, a federal judge in Pennsylvania today struck down the state’s “Defense of Marriage Act” (DOMA), which bans gay marriages.

Just yesterday, the same thing happened in Oregon, and a slew of gay couples went off and tied the knot.

This is the 18th consecutive court victory for gay marriage advocates since the Supreme Court’s momentous decision in US v. Windsor last June, striking down a key provision of the federal DOMA.

The tricky party now is that there’s a 3-day waiting period for receiving a marriage license, though gay couples should be able to apply for them immediately. And while this judge did not issue a stay, an appellate court could. The ACLU says, however, that a judge can waive the 3-day period if (s)he wants. If in fact marriages commence in Pennsylvania, the state will become the 19th to legalize the marriages of gay couples, along with the District of Columbia.  And in fact, it appears the wedding licenses are already being granted!

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Pennsylvania’s Republican Governor, Tom Corbett, is defending the ban, and is likely to appeal. So the question is whether the appellate court issues a stay, and how quickly it does so.

The Judge in this case, John E. Jones, is a George W. Bush appointee.  He was recommended to Bush by former Republican Senator, and erstwhile GOP presidential candidate, Rick “Man on Dog” Santorum.  Oh the irony.


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82 Responses to “Gay marriage legalized in Pennsylvania by Santorum’s judge!”

  1. Butch1 says:

    I wonder why it’s taken two days for you to get it?

  2. Butch1 says:

    ( Why do we have to be; he never is.) ;-)

    Okay, children are off limits, I agree, though one has to admit we’ve gotten a lot of mileage off of that picture.

  3. BeccaM says:

    To be fair, they were all probably exhausted and, with the possible exception of the family patriarch, all wishing they could be elsewhere.

  4. BeccaM says:

    That’s all I was asking for.

  5. Butch1 says:

    LOL! Truly!

  6. Butch1 says:

    Do they all have that “distant stare” for a reason? ;-)

  7. Butch1 says:

    These two are in love, but do not plan far enough ahead. One of them has an accident and unfortunately dies. His homophobic family causes the surviving partner much grief. That’s about as much of a synopsis as I should give, Becca.

  8. jshorty says:

    Honestly I feel we are going to see more states leagalizing gay marriage since its been a huge issue. people are people and gays are not a different species they are people too.

  9. JohninAwe says:

    silas,
    I grew up in the South, and you would be surprised at how many closeted Gay people are in small town and rural areas; some are somewhat open, but it all depends on who they are. If they are old money people, or of popular families, it is just ignored. But let a teacher move into town with just a bit suspicion stuck to them, then you have the mob.

  10. JohninAwe says:

    Indeed, it still excites me, also. What I am waiting for now is for Gay individuals, and couples, to start walking into churches on Sundays, announcing by their humble, yet confident demeanor, “We are here to worship, whether some of you want us or not”. And it will happen!

    One of the biggest denials, even lies among some conservatives, is that Gay people are not spiritual. I know that there are individuals and couples who desire to worship their God, who are hungry for a religious life, some even with the conservative denomination in which they grew up. It is not unusual at all for people to want to be part of their old church family.

    And what also makes me smile, is that there are church leaders who know, without a doubt, that it is coming, and they are living in constant anxiety about it. GOOD!! Because I believe with all my being that these leaders are going to fall over in shock when they see who walks over to a visiting Gay couple, holds out their hand and says, “Welcome, and God bless!”

  11. BlueIdaho says:

    Or Idaho

  12. heimaey says:

    Hold on – no one said anything about monogamy.

  13. ShelbySkinnerura321 says:

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  14. rmthunter says:

    Don’t all into the Roe v. Wade trap — it’s not the same sort of situation at all, Tony Perkins, et al. notwithstanding. With abortion, people can be persuaded that there is harm to a (potential) human being, and opponents can come armed with graphic images and horror stories. There is a fundamental moral issue there. With marriage, they’re forced to resort to the collapse of Western civilization as their most telling argument, which no one believes. They have to scrabble around to find examples of “Christians” being harmed for refusing to obey the anti-discrimination laws that everyone else takes for granted. Not a lot of traction there.

    As for the “one incident,” look at Floyd Corkins — a tenuous example at best, but Perkins has tried to pump it up into a major terrorist attack on his headquarters. He hasn’t had a lot of success with that, to say the least.

    There will be backlash. There’s already been an uptick in the incidence of anti-gay hate crimes, and it’s wise to be wary. But then, in this world, it’s wise to be wary anyway — street wise is survival. (I refuse to walk around the city with earbuds stuck in my ears. That just insures that I won’t know what’s going on around me. It’s not even a matter of some screwball with a gun or a knife — I’m perpetually amazed at the idiots who manage to get a driver’s license.)

  15. Finally my state is in the fold!

  16. rmthunter says:

    I agree completely, which is why I’ve always opposed those who say “put it to a vote” (which itself is flatly unconstitutional) and “wait for the legislature.” Neither of those alternatives can establish a constitutional basis for any given law — in fact, they have no compunctions about passing laws that are flatly unconstitutional.

  17. rmthunter says:

    Ideology is tribal — its purpose is to set groups apart from each other. And religion very easily becomes ideology, especially when it is institutionalized.

    And there you have contemporary American politics in a nutshell.

    Actually, I’m gratified at the number of Republican-appointed judges overturning these anti-marriage laws, starting with Vaughn Walker.

  18. doug105 says:

    I found a man on a dog for him.

  19. Thom Allen says:

    It might take us a long time to find any volunteers to (ewwww!) marry frothy. Oh, wait, Lindsey Graham is available.

  20. Thom Allen says:

    The dog: Please let the froth find the skin mags. As soon as he finds them, he leaves me alone!

    Crying little girl. SHe is holding the infamous Chucky and is about to release him on her family of poor losers.

  21. 4th Turning says:

    It’s all about not taking one single moment of life or each other for granted-
    however things go from here on out…

  22. 4th Turning says:

    Ninong says enough. Am hoping whoever watches will feel something akin to
    what.I did without the thumb up/down screwball critique.

  23. BeccaM says:

    As the saying goes, ‘Lighten up, Francis.’

    You could at least just say what the film is about. Like the same way we bloggers usually put something in the first paragraph or two so you can decide not to read the post or not without spending 10-20-30 minutes figuring out what it’s about.

  24. The_Fixer says:

    I saw the trailer and news stories when it was being made, it is worth the time to watch it and I will be doing so as soon as the time is available to me. It’s heartbreaking and heartwarming.

  25. The_Fixer says:

    Oh, poetic justice is so sweet, particularly when it involves ‘ol Ricky (once referred by one of his peers as being “The stupidest man in the Senate” when he was in office).

    The novelty of these victories has not worn off for me. I get nearly overcome with emotion, thinking about how long this has taken, and the poor folks whose partners have passed from the earth while waiting for these victories. Better late than never is all fine and good, but it’s been too late for some.

    Thanks to the people who’ve brought these suits, the straight supporters (with whom we could not have seen this happen) – indeed, the countless people who’ve joined in the fight in ways big and small.

    Let’s rejoice and continue to push forward.

  26. 4th Turning says:

    Hey,
    I suppose I want us to trust each other as much as I am trusting John and Doc
    and you not to waste our time with drivel, etc. As you already know I am quite
    wordy. I like to present my p.o.v. but I ain’t into selling anyone on anything.
    You are most welcome to take a pass or watch it for a few minutes to
    judge its worth.

  27. BeccaM says:

    Might help if you were to explain what is in this 1 hour 13 minute film before we’d want to commit to watching it and commenting on it.

  28. 4th Turning says:

    Didn’t receive any commentary when I sourced the trailer for this elsewhere?
    But pappyvet’s observations below make me think it might be entirely relevant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D8ce4Coi80

  29. 4th Turning says:

    I’m pleased to read your cautionary words and the follow-up commentary
    you’ve inspired-the veneer overlay on racial equality ought to be taken
    as a very relevant object lesson going forward.
    The persecutions for some have been brutal. For others like myself less so
    but I know I’ve gotten by only on luck of the draw. I think I will put up the
    Bridegroom doc. in full since I feel the undertone of retribution/backlash
    is terribly real.
    I live in a rural tea party county in a newly minted tea party state into which
    tons of koch money are currently flowing to defeat our Dem. Senator.
    It also happens to be a tourist destination. I doubt a young honeymooning
    couple up from South Beach naively holding hands in our walmart would
    go down very well. They could expect slashed tires, etc. Still I’m very
    gratified to be able to witness such a remarkable moment in history.

  30. crazymonkeylady says:

    Yup!!!!!!!!!!

  31. Moderator4 says:

    Yes, BeccaM. And now, gone.

  32. Bill_Perdue says:

    Dominoes. Falling like.

  33. BeccaM says:

    I’ve seen it, but I make it a practice on a good news day to try to avoid bad news.

  34. BeccaM says:

    Funny how attempting to discourage legally-bound monogamy for gay people and stability for their families was deemed to be a conservative thing.

  35. Cletus says:

    A little off-topic, but if you haven’t seen this, you should…

    http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/god-loves-uganda/

  36. heimaey says:

    Funny how the most conservative thing gays have tried to do is driving them nuts.

  37. heimaey says:

    Mississippi would do it if it had money.

  38. silas1898 says:

    There must be panic across the Confederacy tonight. And central PA too.

  39. GreatLakeSailor says:

    I would just add
    Frothy: I hope Junior is still putting the porn under the floorboards where I can find it easy and the Missus can’t.

  40. pappyvet says:

    Not forgetting the friends is where I am at.

  41. jamesnimmo says:

    Or Oklahoma.

  42. BeccaM says:

    It was the night her father lost his re-election campaign in ’06 for his seat as Senator from Virginia* Pennsylvania.

    The little girl, Sarah Maria, is now 16 and looks strikingly like her older sister.

    * = snark intentional

  43. lynchie says:

    Laughed so hard I near did a #2 in my pants

  44. jacktheripper says:

    Today is primary election day in Pennsylvania. Governor Corbett is running for reelection this year. It’s interesting that he did not immediately announce his intentions to appeal. If he was planning to do it, he would get his best bang for the buck by announcing it today.

  45. magster says:

    When John was talking about court win streaks, I am assuming he’s not counting the Utah Supreme Court’s order re: legally gay married couples can’t be adopting until further order of the court.

  46. BeccaM says:

    Well, I still think it’s inevitable that somewhere, some state will challenge it all the way up to the Supes again. Might even be Utah.

  47. MyrddinWilt says:

    So three states within a week.

    I think we can call this one done. At this rate it won’t even reach the SCOTUS again because there won’t be a need.

  48. MyrddinWilt says:

    I can’t remember, was this photograph taken when little Ricky announced his campaign to be re-elected Senator or the launch of his Presidential campaign.

  49. magster says:

    Yeah, I was just about to post this. This judge was featured in a Frontline. It’s nice to see a judge who follows the law notwithstanding his personal political beliefs.

  50. Ninja0980 says:

    This judge also struck down creationism back in 06 and got scorn from the religious right as well as death threats for it.
    He’s a rare breed of Republican judge, one that realizes that seperation of church and state means just that.

  51. Ninja0980 says:

    There have been gays and lesbians who have killed their parents, siblings, boyfriends/girlfriends, kid etc, just as there have been straight people that have done the same thing.
    The bigots will be out of luck if they try that argument against us.

  52. cole3244 says:

    as usual the heartland shows how heartless it really is.

  53. Thom Allen says:

    I hope you’re wrong about Kristallnacht. But I think that you might be right. I don’t doubt that there are groups who might go off on us for our victories. The neo-nazis, the gun nuts who are also homophobes, the fanatical christianists/islamists, the “militias” like the Bundyites and others who are so crazed and blinded by hate and fear. Though I can’t imagine a concentration camp scenario (even though some gave proposed that (the “Rev.” Charles Worley)), I CAN imagine some localized attacks by groups on LGBTQs. In any case, I don’t think having the sharp sword ready is a bad idea.

  54. cole3244 says:

    lol!

  55. magster says:

    Oh, she’s just a kid who loves her deeply flawed daddy. I hope she finds enlightenment as she grows older.

  56. Norman Dostal says:

    YOU ARE BRILLIANT

  57. Norman Dostal says:

    Praise God! Wonderful news!!

  58. Thom Allen says:

    Twisted AND soiled. After all he’s full of santorum.

  59. Alex Grey says:

    There is a frothy tsunami building, and nearly ready to crash down on PA. (On an unrelated note, please please please let him run for Republican nominee again in 2016.)

  60. BeccaM says:

    The price of victory is always vigilance.

    I also remain cautious, because just look at what’s happened to Roe v. Wade.

    But y’know, I’ve tried and can’t imagine what an anti-gay Kristallnacht would look like, in terms of a triggering ‘moment of outrage.’

    Just like the straights, there have been and will always be cases of marital abuse — physical and psychological. There are and will be some gay and lesbian parents who are lousy at raising their kids. There have even been a few gay serial murderers, such as Jeffrey Dahmer.

    Anything we could be righteously accused of doing, the straights have done as much or more. So yes, we must never allow ourselves to become complacent…but we also should not deny ourselves the chance to celebrate the victories when they come, because we older folks have been waiting for decades.

  61. Sophia Bennit says:

    well it is reality gay marriage is approved worldwide when times go http://bit.ly/GAYCEOs

  62. dcinsider says:

    There is nothing wrong with recognizing that with every victory a defeat can be just around the corner. Two steps forward sometimes invites one step back. There will be defeats along the way. No win steak like this can continue unabated. However, those losses will occur in skirmishes too small to matter. The march toward victory is inexorable.

    So what I’m trying to say is relax and enjoy the victories and don’t dwell on past (or future) defeats. We are on the right side of history, and we will will win a complete victory.

    And you are here to witness it. How wonderful is that!

  63. BeccaM says:

    As ever, I like to caption that photo with the imagined inner thoughts…

    Rick ‘Frothy’ Santorum: ‘Oh nuts, lost again, well I’ll just pick myself up and try, try again because there’s no way people didn’t actually dislike what I had to offer. Maybe I should denounce homosexuality even more!’

    Mrs. Santorum: ‘Gawd, if I have to stand up here one more time and listen to him LOSE… I swear I’ll break a commandment with my gorrrrgeous tennis instructor, Fernando.’

    Pouting eldest daughter: ‘This is so f*cking bogus. It’s always him-him-him. Exactly when am I ever going to get a chance to tell them I’m pregnant? And that it’s Fernando’s kid?’

    Crying youngest daughter: ‘Oh dear Krishna, whatever did I do to be reincarnated as this family’s child? I swear I’ll do anything if you get me out of this.’

    Thousand-yard-stare son: ‘Did I remember to hide the gay porno under the floorboards? Please let it be yes, let it be yes-yes-yes, and not just jammed under the mattress where mom found it last time…’

  64. pappyvet says:

    I completely agree Sis. But I have a thought. A nightmare really.

    That all it is going to take is one criminal act , one moment of outrage by someone who happens to be gay and the wingnuts will have their kristallnacht.. Then all the fake “science” will come screaming out and we could be in a battle for our lives. It has worried me for some time. This is one of the reasons why I am always caution against cracking open that bottle of Champagne too quickly. With all that people of our age group witnessed and will never forget I am of course joy filled and yet I remain cautious in my joy. Am I so paranoid that I can no longer enjoy the fruits I have hoped to see when they at last ripen? So forgive an old fool if he keeps his sword sharp. That windmill may turn out to be a dragon after all. And with the scars we carry from decades of battles , I can’t help but think that these victories may be coming far too easily. Feel free to chastise if I am being foolish. To be honest with you my wonderful Sister,I truly hope that I am.

  65. Naja pallida says:

    Are you sure about that? I think his family dog has been looking for a way to run away.

  66. BeccaM says:

    Ah — yes, on this I agree completely.

  67. Oh Ricky, Ricky, the defeats just keep coming, and coming, and coming…..

    http://www.rippdemup.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/rick_santorum-family-1.jpeg

  68. basenjilover says:

    Entire west coast and north eastern states now allow gays to marry. I’m numb and in awe. Never ever thought I’d be around for this.

  69. Kelly A says:

    sorry, i’ll try that again. treating people with respect and as equals should not be politicized. like a lot of other things we’ve been tricked into fighting with each other about.

  70. AndyinChicago says:

    Man, I say this quite often, but thank goodness for the ACLU.

  71. Kelly A says:

    because this, like climate change, is NOT POLITICAL. we have been fooled by politicians who want us to fight with each other into thinking it is. meanwhile they get away with murder. stop politicizing everything. using common sense is much easier.

  72. BeccaM says:

    I’m sure he’s fantasizing about the day when he’s ‘forced’ to gay-marry some dude. ;-)

  73. dcinsider says:

    Santorum must have his panties in a major bunch today.

  74. BeccaM says:

    At the risk of repeating myself and “I told you so”-ism: The courts were always where we were going to win, if winning was ever possible.

  75. AnitaMann says:

    Good. That’s gonna leave a stain.

  76. BeccaM says:

    Yes, there’s a process for bypassing the 3-day waiting period, by submitting a request in writing to the appropriate County Register and paying a $15 fee. At least that was said to be the case on one of the sites I went to.

    Somehow I’ve a feeling there will be more than a few counties willing to grant them on the spot.

  77. Thom Allen says:

    The Clerk’s offices in the Philadelphia area are staying open an extra hour tonight to accommodate those who want to get marriage licenses today. Also, apparently, some counties in PA have the ability to waive the three day waiting period requirement.

    Judge McShane in Oregon had some wonderful thoughts on same-sex marriage in the decision he released yesterday. John Jones, the Pennsylvania judge who ruled today also had some great words on the subject.

    “That same-sex marriage causes discomfort
    in some does not make its prohibition constitutional. Nor can past
    tradition trump the bedrock constitutional guarantees of due process and
    equal protection. Were that not so, ours would still be a racially
    segregated nation according to the now rightfully discarded doctrine of
    ‘separate but equal.’

    In the sixty years since Brown
    was decided, ‘separate’ has thankfully faded into history, and only
    ‘equal’ remains. Similarly, in future generations the label ‘same-sex
    marriage’ will be abandoned, to be replaced simply by ‘marriage.’

    We are a better people than what these laws represent, and it is time to discard them into the ash heap of history.”

    –Judge John Jones, US District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania in his legal ruling against Pennsylvania’s ban on same-sex marriage.

    Apparently there are some good, thinking Republicans left. Thank you, Judge Jones.

  78. pappyvet says:

    Poor Ricky,poor Bobby. Perhaps a Don’t Ask Don’t Tell for wingnuts would help the rest of humankind to create a world of decency and respect without having to pause from time to time so that these self righteous boobs can throw their little monkey wrenches around.

  79. teddy partridge says:

    Oregon also has a three-day waiting period but couples can pay extra (how much varies by county) to bypass it. Does Pennsylvania have the same type of extra-cost express lane, I wonder? It costs between five and twenty-five dollars here to waive the wait.

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