Oodles of Russian Olympic news today – it’s out of control, here’s a summary

I’m staggered by the amount of “news” there is this morning about the Russian Olympics, and the backlash the Russian government is feeling over its crackdown on its gay and trans citizens, and it’s ongoing threats to arrest Olympic athletes, guests and media during the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.

I figured it might be useful to simply list, and link, to the more important stories.  There are a ton.


International Olympic Committee may do Russia’s dirty work for it, sanctioning athletes that promote “gay propaganda.”
A second senior International Olympic Committee member
expresses concern with Russia’s anti-gay crackdown.
US Senator Schumer
: Putin is a bully, nations should wave rainbow flags during Olympic opening ceremony.
Two German cabinet ministers
accuse Putin of leading Russia into a “flawless dictatorship.”
Irish concern grows over Russian clampdown.

Canada to favor refugee claims from gay Russian.
France’s Sports Minister is “worried” about Russian anti-gay law.
Limbaugh, right-wing hate groups, defend Russia.
Belgian’s stage kiss-in in front of Russian consulate.
California state senators want freeze on state retirement fund investment in Russia.
NYT: Gays in Russia find no haven
Representative of America’s lead anti-“gay marriage” group praises Russian anti-gay law.

Russian member of parliament calls British actor, and human rights advocate, Stephen Fry “a sick person,” mocks Fry’s admission that he attempted suicide last year. (I had initially embedded the BBC’s interview, but as the BBC apparently thinks the year is still 1998, and videos should auto-play on landing on a page, I’ve removed it. You can still find it via the link.)

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68 Responses to “Oodles of Russian Olympic news today – it’s out of control, here’s a summary”

  1. Mela Corrs says:

    Thanks for this round up and for providing other sources on the updates in the upcoming Russian Olympic.
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  2. arguethefacts says:

    They did implement those laws and we are now just getting rid of them. And even if we get rid of them they still arrest gays using those laws even though the arrest will be thrown out.

  3. bimbo says:

    so russia is exporting homosexuals to other countries. that sounds like win-win

  4. Bill_Perdue says:

    People who were there put the lie to you assertion about DOMA and the bigot Clinton. http://aravosis.wpengine.com/2013/03/president-clinton-wrong-history-doma.html

    Your comment on the sanctions was unresponsive. There was an embargo on food, medicines and sanitary supplies from everywhere. The bigot Clinton killed half a million Iraqi children and babies. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011203/cortright








    The lies Bush used were a repeat of the lies the bigot Clinton used to justify his murder of half a million children. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f5u_0ytUs

    You really do have to catch up on things, Russia hasn’t had a planned economy for decades. Try reading sometime, RIF.

  5. Kirk Lammert says:

    Yes, Bill Clinton signed DOMA into effect. At the time, and the state the country was in, it was the only thing he could do. It’s gone now, thanks to ANOTHER Democratic president. As far as sanctions go, you’re saying that it’s our responsibility to feed the world now? Send your food to Iraq. Leave the rest of us alone. On Iraq War, more than one voted to go to war… because they were given a litany of LIES from GW Bush and his administration!! If they’d of known the truth, the vote tally would have been different.

    You’re a socialist? Head to Russia… they’ll love you.

  6. Bill_Perdue says:

    Your memory is defective if you forgot that federal DOMA belongs to Democrats and in particular to Bill Clinton and that Hillary Clinton and Obama only recently rebranded after decades of bigotry.

    Clinton extended and enlarged the wars begun by Bush1 when his embargo on food, sanitary supplies and medical supplies resulted in the murder of half a million Iraqi children and babies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o

    Obama escalated in Afghanistan, Hillary Clinton totally supported Bush2’s invasion and occupation of Iraq. The wars are totally bipartisan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0

    Fox News the mirror of MSNBC, both are right wing, one for Democrats and one for Republicans. I’m a socialist and far to the left of right winger like Democrats and Republicans.,

  7. grayzip says:

    Right, I guess I meant I expected their actions to be as horrible as they have historically been, but for their cover story and rhetoric to be more polished. Though believe me I’m delighted that it’s not

  8. Kirk Lammert says:

    “Rebranded bigots.” Really? As far as I can remember, it was GW Bush campaigning on a constitutional amendment for traditional marriage, not any of your named “warmongers.” It was also GW Bush that led us into 2 unfunded wars. Not Clinton. Not Obama. I’m sick and tired of folks like you that suckle at the nipple of Fox News and think it’s fact.

  9. rmthunter says:

    :. . . who could have forseen the IOC so publicly, club-footedly and unnecessarily caving in to them?”

    Anyone who’s paid attention to the IOC for the last thirty years. I’m reminded that when everyone and his brother was starting “(Insert Category Here) Olympics,” the only group the IOC sued was the organizers of the Gay Olympics, which is why we now have the Gay Games. I don’t expect the ball-less wonders at the IOC to stand up for human rights — I expect them to clutch their pearls and worry about their “brand.” If they pulled their heads out of their behinds for a minute, they might just realize that this is damaging their brand more than anything else they could do, but they don’t have that kind of perspective.

  10. rmthunter says:

    “Back here in the States, the haters are cheering what Russia’s been doing.”

    Birds of a feather.

    And that is not just name-calling. Look at the similarities between the attitudes and rhetoric of the Russians and the professional gay-bashers in this country. I ran across a story a bit ago that Scott Lively was claiming credit for the “gay propaganda” law in Russia. (He “advised” them to adopt that sort of measure; and of course, we all know Scott Lively has the clout to advise countries on their domestic policies.) They have in common an authoritarian mindset and a need for an “enemy” to justify their activities, if not their very existence. (I’m not going to go into Godwin territory, but you can connect the dots.)

  11. Anonymous says:

    “I’m actually looking forward to how this plays out in a reality-tv sort of way.”

    Why do you want us to subscribe to your petty mentality?

  12. FLL says:

    I thought this is why it’s very difficult to get accurate polling information. Public opinion in Russia may be changing, but it might be impossible to tell because people fear arrest or at least unwelcome attention from the authorities if they answer the poll question by saying they are against the law. When the law is repealed or overturned in the courts, there might be a big jump in the public opinion poll numbers.

  13. grayzip says:

    I may have been wrong about Russia shooting themselves in the foot, because who could have forseen the IOC so publicly, club-footedly and unnecessarily caving in to them? If they don’t have somebody walk it back tomorrow then they are… well as big of morons as you would have to be to say it in the first place.

    I mean, we all understand the IOC is at best halfway between Russia and the US when it comes to matters LGBT, but I never knew they were such media rubes until today. This is the time for Russia and the IOC to minimize and dissemble and run out the clock; instead both are both saying such incendiary things that they effectively force even our lukewarm supporters into to taking sides: Are you with the bigots or against them? How can either of them think that would break their way?

    It’s a very peculiar feeling to be firmly on Team Boycott yet almost want to scream at the other side, what are you idiots DOING, this is NOT that HARD!

  14. Tom Hawk says:

    “—all the while surrounded by a superstitious populace that supports Putin’s anti-gay law by 88%—”

    I wonder how many of the 88% support the law in public in order to not be arrested for supporting Gay Propaganda. To deny the law is to break the law.

  15. BeccaM says:

    Remember how it could be even worse than non-existence for LGBT folks half a century ago: If discovered, we’d almost always be summarily fired from our jobs, denied housing, and for many, sentenced to prison or involuntary commitment to mental institutions, where electroshock and castration were common ‘treatments.’

    This is what Russia is aiming for, and what our own homegrown homophobic bigots would enact if they had the power to do so again.

  16. BeccaM says:

    Yep. And some think it was a good idea.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Best coverage of the Russian situation, hands down. It’s ranking high on Google search. Hopefully every time people search for IOC, Olympics, or Russia this site will appear.

  18. Anonymous says:

    I wonder if they will be “cheering” when the crap hits the fan in Russia? Oh wait, some of the wingnuts here think the Holocaust was a hoax.

  19. John Masters says:

    Go after the TV Advertisers…believe me, that’s when you’ll start seeing things change. If NBC suddenly can’t get advertisers, then they’ll be hard pressed to pay the Olympic Committee (which is where most of their money comes from…and the other TV Networks around the world), then we’ll get the IOC’s attention.

  20. Bill_Perdue says:

    Laws like DOMA.

  21. Bill_Perdue says:

    Obama, Cameron and the Clintons’ are rebranded bigots and therefore less dangerous for us. Putin is an un-rebranded and more dangerous for us.

    All of the above are warmongers operating to build or perfect police states and anti-worker union busting lap dogs of the rich. They’re anything but straw men or women. Acknowledging that doesn’t detract from our fight against the Russian bigots party or Bill Clintons DOMA or Cameron’s Tory bigots. It makes it easier to fight them by explaining them and building alliances to defeat them.

    In the end our Russian brothers and sisters will have to defeat Putin by building alliances with Russian trade unions, feminists and the growing Russian left and they can do that, in part, by comparing Putin and his rightwing policies to Obama and his rightwing policies. Putin is becoming more and more unpopular in Russia and that’s one of the reasons he’s scapegoating us. http://links.org.au/node/3280

    Political education is crucial to movement building.

  22. BeccaM says:

    As Usagi says, it’s a pretty standard derailing technique used by concern trollers.

    “Why are you people so obsessed with X when this horrible Y thing is happening?! You’re being so selfish!” — where X can equal any particular cause or current event.

    With respect to gay/trans rights in general, we’ve seen it with respect to DADT and DOMA. “Why are you gays so obsessed with marriage equality when gays are being murdered in Africa?”

    As for Y, it can be anything, related or not. All that’s needed is for it to be perceived by some as ‘worse’ than the injustice currently being addressed. Sometimes though, the ‘worse’ is barely there and highly subjective, like when LGBTs were criticized for complaining about being dropped from immigration reform. “Why are you fixated on those few thousand bi-national gay and lesbian couples when the proposed bill would help millions, including some who happen to be gay? You should be pulling out all the stops to ensure its passage. Why so selfish?”

    The closing snark criticism can be an accusation of selfishness or some other remark that accuses one of extreme flaws in personal character and moral judgment. A common refrain from a few years ago was, “You’re against the Iraq war, that means you support Saddam Hussein and his rape rooms. What’s wrong with you? Those people are suffering!” Or, “You want us to leave Afghanistan? What about all those women!” (Aside rejoinder response: “Yeah, right — you mean the ones still being forced into marriages as chattel property and having acid thrown in their faces for the crime of learning to read? Yeah, we did a terrific job of stopping all that. Mission Accomplished.”)

    From what I’ve been reading in the comments on this blog the last year or thereabouts, “Obama is killing people with drones, why aren’t you upset about that?!!!1!” appears to be the go-to choice as the “Fits All Derailing Efforts” option.

    The entire purpose is to shut down any substantive discussion or actions in favor of doing nothing, creating dissent and arguments, and wheel-spinning.

  23. Naja pallida says:

    Trust me, if they thought they could get away with it, they would be implementing laws here too. They’re trying hard in Virginia as is… and I’m sure, entirely coincidentally, what is their excuse? It’s for the children!

  24. Bill_Perdue says:

    It’s possible to be against the Putin bigots and still be opposed to the mad dog warmonger in the WH. In fact, it’s an error to counterpose the two, as if we can’t do both.

  25. BeccaM says:

    We can multitask our outrage. Enough with the concern trolling.

  26. BeccaM says:

    Just listen to America’s most virulently anti-gay bigots and it’s the same message about what it means to be a gay or trans person.

    Except in Russia, they’re basing new laws on it.

    Back here in the States, the haters are cheering what Russia’s been doing.

  27. Hue-Man says:

    I realized over the weekend that Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church are trying to re-create my 1960s childhood – there were no gay people, consensual gay sex was illegal, there were no gay people on TV or in the movies, there were no gay magazines, few gay-related books, and even appearing gay resulted in bullying (from age 8 in my case), violence, and worse. Since gay people didn’t exist, I must be a singular freak.

    Are gay kids suffering in Russia – did I suffer? I was strong enough to ignore the bullying and self-assured enough to avoid killing myself but realize I was the exception rather than the rule. Despite the gay-free environment and the constant bullying, I still turned out gay; so, either the “gay propaganda” concept doesn’t work because gay kids turn into gay adults or, more frighteningly, the desired result is dead gay kids that never have a chance to become gay adults.

  28. mirror says:


  29. jixter says:

    I second that, annetteboardman.

  30. usagi says:

    It’s a standard derailing technique. I wish John would just start deleting off-topic rants in the Olympic articles. It’s just going to get worse.

  31. Drew2u says:

    On point; even though you’re linking to new-ish stories, could you also keep a running tally and links towards anti-gay violence at the end of posts having to do with these laws? At a quick glance of the links in this post, it’s mainly political talk.
    The point is the horrors that are happening to the kids in Russia, so it would be pertinent to include links to those (if just for newcomers’-sake).

  32. One more point. We’ve earned our stripes on this blog, and especially with these commenters, many (most?) of whom are far more anti-Obama than I, in terms of taking on President Obama on issue after issue. Had a Russian taken on Vladimir Putin to the degree we’ve taken on Barack Obama over the past 5+ years (we started taking him on during the campaign), that Russian would be lucky if they were in a Gulag, because it’s more likely they’d be dead. So two points here. 1) Been there, done that, in terms of taking on Obama. So we’ve earned the right to take on Putin. 2) Since you’re in the mood to make false equivalences, you probably wouldn’t last long either under President Putin. And with that, you’re sadly leaving us.

  33. Oh yeah. Most of us organizing this haven’t received a dime from anyone! But the foreign menace is always more menacing when secret rich people are funding them (with big noses, preferably).

  34. Badgerite says:

    Oh, wow. Listened to the last link. The Russian parliament member. He hit all of the buttons. LBGT organizations benefiting from FOREIGN money. LBTG organizations going after the ‘young’. I suspect that when they talk about pedophilia what they actually refer to is gay teens hooking up or attempting to hook up with other gay teens.

  35. Bruce says:

    John you are 100% on point, thanks for that!

  36. FLL says:

    You again? You are a squeaky wheel, no? People are getting arrested for mentioning the topic of civil rights in public and getting their heads bashed in by thugs while the police watch just for publicly expressing their opposition to a campaign of repression. This is not supposed to be entertainment, although your comment seems to indicate that you consider it as such. Please start to think of these events as pertaining to civil rights and human rights, not material for a reality TV show.

  37. Steven Jaeger says:

    My feeling at this time is to start by sending emails to the corporations (they are human after all…. hahhahahaha) consumer site and tell them 1, I won’t use their product as long as they continue to support the Sochi olympics. 2. I will spread the news that they are supporting Russia in it’s pogrom to kill gays. We may not be able to do much about Russia, but we can let our ire be known to the businesses who support the Russian Olympic effort and thus the pogrom.

  38. jomicur says:

    Why are you concerned about Obama dropping bombs when there are millions of children around the world who are hungry? Why are you concerned about hungry children when energy companies are fracking? Why are you concerned about fracking when there are a lot of STDs spiking? Why are you concerned about STDs when… Not a hard game to play, is it?

  39. Delonjo Barber says:

    My thing is: the Olympics used to be about athletics and triumphing above all odds. However, now the Olympics is simply another reality tv show. Glitzy, glamorous and sensational to be sure but to me and anyone else who doesn’t really give much of a damn about the Olympics. (Disclosure: I’m a RABID figure-skating fan, too.) I’m actually looking forward to how this plays out in a reality-tv sort of way.

  40. jomicur says:

    You are covering this in more depth than any other news source I’ve found. You’re doing a phenomenal job with this. Please don’t cut back (or, heaven forfend, stop) your coverage.

  41. FLL says:

    There are certainly gay rights organizations in Russia today. To put it charitably, they are on the ropes. Can the Russian gay rights groups force Putin’s hand and and force their country to overturn the anti-gay law? To expect these Russian gay rights groups to successfully take on Putin’s government by themselves—all the while surrounded by a superstitious populace that supports Putin’s anti-gay law by 88%—is so unrealistic that you might reasonably suspect the motives of anyone suggesting it. These Russian gay rights groups will be lucky to keep their members from being jailed or getting their heads bashed in. How can we support them? First, by keeping their efforts (and persecution of their members) in the news. I have no quarrel with the media or blogosphere here. I can see with my own eyes that traditional newspapers like the New York Times, Internet newspapers like Huffpo and any number of blogs are doing their job in keeping the plight of Russian gay rights groups in the news. Second, people can certainly send money to Russian gay rights groups, which I’m sure will mostly go to cover the legal cost of defending their members against criminal charges filed by the government—or medical costs. But this is all first aid to dress the serious wounds being inflicted in Russia right now. What will help to stop the persecution itself?

    There is the move to boycott the Olympics or change the location. This is on target because it strikes at the desire of the Putin regime for legitimacy and international prestige. It’s well known that Putin (like other European rulers before him) is obsessed with a flawless, shiny Olympics as a feather in Russia’s cap. As a future development, there’s nothing wrong with boycotting the products of Olympic sponsors as a means of accomplishing this, but this is something to expect only when it becomes clear that a specific corporate sponsor is a hopeless supporter of Putin’s campaign of repression. Boycott’s of those American corporate sponsors have not been reported in the media/blogosphere up to this point, and I don’t think it’s because your reporting or that of others in the press is lacking. We’ll see what the near future holds in that regard, and I’m sure everyone will be keeping track of which corporate sponsors are supportive and which are not.

    Your list of news items contains the real answer to defeating repression in Russia. The State of California represents two multi-billion dollar retirement funds, and some California state legislators with some ethical principles want California to financially divest from Russia (link here). Actions like this are the only thing that will really sting the Putin government and get them to take notice. Actions like these were the only thing that really stung the South African apartheid government in the 1980s and got them to begin negotiating with the forces opposed to apartheid. Every bigot in existence, from Rush Limbaugh to NOM, will advise against taking big money out of Russia because they know that this is the most effective way to push back Putin’s anti-gay agenda. And let’s not forget the transparent concern trolls who suggest that the best way to defeat a bully is to appease him. They will repeat their version of an old lie: “Don’t put the financial screws on Russia. It will only make them mad and they’ll hurt gay people in Russia more.” We all know the truth behind this lie. If you leave the bully undisturbed, it will only embolden him. Don’t listen to the people who are telling you not to hit Russia in the pocketbook with big money items like the multi-billion dollar retirement funds controlled by the State of California. People who advise that, whether Rush Limbaugh or others of his ilk, are only trying to undercut efforts to reverse the persecution in Russia. They don’t want you to succeed.

  42. emjayay says:

    Yes, but automobiles are now causing only half as much deaths, using half as much fuel, and polluting about a thousandth as much as a few decades ago because of the faceless socialist big government bureaucratic oppressors in the federal Department of Transportation funded by tax dollars stolen from hard working Americans.

  43. Indigo says:

    How thoughtless of me.

  44. Bookbinder says:

    “Backlash”? This should be the mother of all backlashes.

  45. Bookbinder says:

    Should Russia not be held to the standards it presented and which were accepted by the IOC at the time it made application for the games…..or have the games moved elsewhere?

  46. PeteWa says:

    I completely agree, as a grasshopper, I have always mocked those stupid ants who work, work, work while the sun is out.
    it’s Summer, relax, enjoy yourself!
    play, gorge yourself on the bounty that is everywhere, frolic!

    deal with the Winter when it gets here.

  47. nicho says:

    That’s an insult to barnacles everywhere.

  48. magster says:

    I was glad to see this story in the first segment of NBC News last night, especially since NBC is televising the Olympics.

  49. PeteWa says:

    I’m deeply interested in the conversation you believe everyone should be having.
    Can you direct me to your blog and the in-depth articles you’ve written on these subjects?

  50. FLL says:

    Someone on a Sunday morning political talk show described the events of this year in Russia as the most important international gay rights story in human history, so far. None of the other guests objected to that assessment. At this point, I don’t think you have to worry about overdoing it on your coverage of the topic.

  51. goulo says:

    Dear Mr. “Why are you concerned about bad thing X when bad thing Y is happening?” Troll,

    Gay people (and people accused of being gay) are being kidnapped and tortured by gangs of Russian thugs TODAY and being arrested and imprisoned by Russian police TODAY.

    PS: Why are you soooooo concerned about Obama’s drone strikes? Cigarettes and automobiles are causing far more deaths! Gosh, if only it were possible for people to think about more than one problem at a time… Wait, some of us can actually do that! I recommend trying it out. It seems to work better than attacking people for addressing a problem which is not your personal favorite problem.

  52. Indigo says:

    Um . . . don’t feed the trolls, people. The issue is extremely serious and trolls are merely barnacles.

  53. Thank you! It’s feedback like that that keeps me going :) It’s not always easy to gauge how your writing is going, as most of this business is very one-direction – I write, you read :) Even the comments are only a small section of our readers. So it’s nice to hear things like that (especially when I worry a bit that I might be on the verge of writing a bit too much about a particular topic :)

  54. Kirk Lammert says:

    What does Obama have to do with the subject at hand? Take your strawman and go somewhere that cares.

  55. It’s a neat way to undercut our efforts. Strikes me that people who raise arguments like that don’t want you to succeed in the first place.

  56. I suspect he’d prefer the day after :)

  57. emjayay says:

    Distant being six months from now. Maybe everyone should hold off till the day before.

  58. So your point is that gay and trans people aren’t suffering in Russia? Or gay and trans people are suffering in Russia, but because Obama does bad stuff too, we should let gay and trans people in Russia suffer? We fight what we can, when the best opportunity arises to make positive change. Lots of people are already working on Obama’s “bombs,” as you put it. We, here, are choosing to focus at the moment on helping Russia’s gay and trans community, and sending a larger message to the rest of the world about f’g with our community. I don’t see any valid reason to undercut that effort, regardless of how important other issues are too (especially since no one is ignoring those other issues – rather, you seem perturbed that we’ve been particularly successful at getting our issues noticed). Lots of issues are important. That’s not a valid reason to undercut an already rather successful human rights campaign.

  59. emjayay says:

    While there are certainly very legitimate arguements to be made about use of armed drones, I’m pretty sure the mass indiscriminate and under completely false pretenses bomb dropping pretty much all happened happened under a previous administration.

  60. Delonjo Barber says:

    The Olympics will be in the distant future. What I’m talking about is happening TODAY. Right now!

  61. Delonjo Barber says:

    What does Bush have to do with this? It’s 2013!!!!! Stop going back to 2009: “Give him more time!” LOL

  62. emjayay says:

    The concern is not about the Olympics. The concern is about human rights, in this case gay human’s rights. The Olympics are just an event of great interest to the world in a country that expects to gain prestige and PR by hosting them which is also quickly going in what most people in more enlightened countries think is the wrong direction on this issue in particular. And putting not only their own citizens at bodily risk but also those of international tourists and atheletes.

    By hosting the Olympics Russia has intentionally put a big spotlight on itself. This is what comes with that. It is a self-inflicted wound.

    Does that help?

  63. Delonjo Barber says:

    What’s hyperbolic about it? Isn’t Obama dropping bombs globally? (Yes!) Isn’t Obama force-feeding prisoners? (Yes.) Isn’t dropping indiscriminate bombs murder? (Yes.) PS: I understand that the “strikes” have been and continue to be “targeted.”

  64. Monoceros Forth says:

    What’s with all these “how can you complain about eating broccoli when children are starving in Africa” concern-troll comments?

  65. AggieCowboy says:

    And did you complain when Bush was dropping bombs everywhere? Or when Terri Shiavo was being force fed? Or when Republicans trampled all over Human and Voter’s Rights?

  66. Thom Allen says:

    A little heavy on the hyperbole, aren’t you?

    Putin is demonstrating his, and russia’s bigotry and stupidity.

  67. Delonjo Barber says:

    Why are you sooooo concerned about the Olympics when Obama is dropping bombs (real bombs, not silver or bronze bombs—BOMBS!) everyplace else? If anything, Putin is demonstrating that Obama has no clothes to preach about bullying, murdering, or human rights (Obama is still force-feeding men at Guantanemo….shhhhh! it’s a secret). Human rights!? That’s a LAUGH!

  68. annetteboardman says:

    This is why I check your site first every day. Thanks for keeping this info in front of us, John.

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