Oklahoma joins other backwards southern states in dissing gay military members

Oklahoma, Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana.

All haters.

All southern states.

And people wonder why the South has such an awful reputation around the US, and around the world. Perhaps it has something to do with constantly electing far-right bigots to office who run the state like an adjunct of the Bible.

the South

The south.

The latest installment in the south’s panoply of officially-sanctioned bigotry?  Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin joins the growing list of southern GOP governors who are refusing to process benefits for same-sex (gay) military spouses.  How petty.  And how Republican.  The party truly has been taken over by haters and extremists.

After the Supreme Court’s recent decision striking down section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), the Pentagon announced that it was providing benefits to the spouses of same-sex members of the US military.

Yes, southern GOP governors are dissing uniformed members of the US military. How patriotic.  Oklahoma was the latest, with today’s decision not to process such benefits requests from US military members.

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin

The American Military Partner Association raises a good question – why hasn’t the Pentagon, and the Obama administration at large, gotten involved to rectify this?

“Since the governor of Oklahoma has decided to join Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana in playing politics with our military families, we need immediate and decisive action from the Administration and the Defense Department in affirming that all military spouses, regardless of sexual orientation, will be treated equally,” said Stephen Peters, president of AMPA. “Our military families should not be left vulnerable to the prejudice of state governors, and the Defense Department must use its control of federal funds to stop this discrimination.”

Yes, they must.

Will they?

CyberDisobedience on Substack | @aravosis | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn. John Aravosis is the Executive Editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown; and has worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, the United Nations Development Programme, and as a stringer for the Economist. He is a frequent TV pundit, having appeared on the O'Reilly Factor, Hardball, World News Tonight, Nightline, AM Joy & Reliable Sources, among others. John lives in Washington, DC. .

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98 Responses to “Oklahoma joins other backwards southern states in dissing gay military members”

  1. The Cool Cookie says:

    I live in Maryland and we are frequently reminded that as former residents of Ohio, we now live in the south. As for why he chose not to include it, I think he left it out because it spoiled his argument, and that is simply a way to prove one’s point by picking off the low hanging fruit.

  2. Thomas Reed says:

    I live in Tennessee and I am so ashamed of this state and all the southern bigoted states (and I grew up in Alabama). Just as with integration these backward a$$hole5 will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. They seem to never learn and that’s sad. Our Soldiers, Sailors, Air Force and Marines deserve all the respect and for sure all the benefits we can possibly give them and that has NOTHING to do with their sexual orientation. They keep us safe – what don’t the idiots in the south understand about that? I truly believe teapublicans are like sperm – only one in a million ever becomes a human being.

  3. the dumbasssouth says:

    …As usual; the Confederacy LEADS the USA in Ignorance !!!!!

  4. geoffalnutt says:

    Please. Collectively – Republicans have one brain cell…which they have to share. And you KNOW how much Republicans hate to share. Nothing secedes like secession!!! Can’t they all get on next Rapture Bus…and be whisked away instantaneously? Please!!! I’ll give you my milk-money! Wait – (beep, beep!) There it is! Bye!

  5. Zorba says:

    Yes, Steve King- ugh. Add Ted Cruz to the Texas column, and there is Marco Rubio from Florida. And…..and…..and….any number of other nut-case Republicans. They really seem to have gone completely around the bend as a party. :-(

  6. BillFromDover says:

    So don’t diss the entire state. ;-)”

    I can see where you’re coming from, but Steve King… really?

    The only thing standing in this guys way from automatically receiving the Nobel prize for excellence in ignorance is Louie Gohmert from Texas and Michele Bachmann from Minnesota.

    Have we forgotten anything?

  7. Zorba says:

    Hahahahaha! Yes, I have heard of Dover, NH, since I lived in Boston for awhile. But that was a long time ago, and I must admit that Dover, Delaware leaped into my mind first, considering where I live now, in the mid-Atlantic area.
    Can’t blame you for not wanting to be clumped in with Iowa, although I do have some distant relatives who live there, and they’re pretty reasonable. So don’t diss the entire state. ;-)

  8. BillFromDover says:

    NH, although I wouldn’t hold it against ya if you never heard of us… even, say like once every 4 years when we are besieged by TeeVee spots and lucre that would make even a(n) (insert pejorative of choice here) salivate.

  9. Zorba says:

    Hahahahahaha! Come on out to Western Maryland some time, Bill, and I will feed you some baklava, roast lamb, souvlaki, moussaka, dolmades, Avgolemono soup and pastitsio that will knock your socks off! Among other Greek dishes.
    From your name, I am guessing that you live in Dover, Delaware? I would have thought that you would be a Nationals, Phillies, or Orioles fan. They’re all a lot closer to you than Boston. I will say that the Red Sox are my favorite American League team, because Mr. Zorba and I went to graduate school there, as did Daughter Zorba and her husband.
    But I am a life-long National League, St. Louis Cardinals partisan. I am willing to root for the Red Sox only if they are not playing the Cardinals, especially if they should face each other in the World Series.

  10. BillFromDover says:

    Not sure what’s happening attempting to comment here, but for the third time attempting to reply again:

    Some of my best friends are Greek, not to mention their to-die-for cheeses and salads.

    Pecker fencing again, Monday, perhaps?

  11. BillFromDover says:

    Did ya know that Greeks are some of my best friends?

    In any case, go Red Sox!

  12. BillFromDover says:

    Did ya know that Greeks are some of my best friends?

    In any case, go Red Sox!

  13. Zorba says:

    The President, as head of the Executive Branch, is tasked with enforcing the laws passed by Congress. That does not mean that he absolutely must enforce every single law. There have been times when a President chose not to enforce certain laws. See : http://www.bhba.org/foundation/Presidential-Non-Enforcement-and-the-Rule-of-Law.pdf
    And some have argued that “there are circumstances in which the President may appropriately decline to enforce a statute that he views as unconstitutional.” See: http://www.justice.gov/olc/nonexcut.htm
    So yes, he did have the power to not enforce DADT, from his first day in office. There were a lot of arguments, both here and in other places, that he should have done this from the first. The counter-argument being that the next President could simply over-rule this and begin enforcement once more. (And of course, the Congress could also chose to bring Articles of Impeachment against a President who refused to enforce certain laws.)
    I was always of two minds about an Executive Order not to enforce the law. While appealing, I did think that it would be too easily dispensed with by the next President. What I objected to was Obama not forcefully taking his case for the repeal of the law to Congress from the very beginning. Despite Obama’s attempt at revisionist history (see: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112457/obamas-false-dont-ask-dont-tell-narrative). he was not exactly a fierce advocate for the repeal.
    You have a good weekend, too, Bill. We may never agree on this, but I have enjoyed sparring with you. ;-)

  14. BillFromDover says:

    All great and wonderful (BTW, I agree with most of what ya penned), but it was not the original argument which was this:

    “Because he had the power to order that they cease enforcement of DADT on his first day in office,”

    My point, again, is simply that he did not have the power to simply cease enforcement of DADT on his first day in office

    This was a law passed by congress (just like the ACA) and although he may have the bully pulpit, it takes either an act of congress or a court ruling to overturn DADT, not a simple executive order he could have decreed on his 1st day in office.

    Cheers. and have a fine, fine weekend.

  15. John D. Cox says:

    Ah, so this is why the south is such a racist, homophobic, misogynous pile of garbage! The south still wages civil war only it’s not against Union troops. It’s against people of color, sexual minorities, and women. Does anyone have an optimistic prognostication for the south? Or will evilgelicals always stifle civil rights and equality for ALL?

  16. Zorba says:

    Just as a President cannot repeal a law, he cannot pass one, either.
    But Presidents are not helpless little figureheads.
    He can phone and meet with and pressure members of Congress, individually and in groups. He can make deals. He can use the bully pulpit. He can take his case to the American people, who, after all, are the constituents of these members of Congress.
    Although I disliked LBJ intensely for a number of reasons, Johnson deserved a great deal of the credit for the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, even over opposition from his own Party. He cajoled, he flattered, he twisted arms, he manipulated and maneuvered, and he used the bully pulpit.
    Those are the types of things a President can do to get legislation either passed or repealed. Did you think that all a President does is sit in his office twirling his thumbs until it is time to pop out and give a pretty speech in the Rose Garden, or a stump speech on the campaign trail, or entertain visiting foreign dignitaries at State dinners? They can do a lot more than that.

  17. Butch1 says:

    Ha! My family’s from the South though my parents took that “Hillbilly Highway” North to find work and landed in Detroit, Michigan where I was born and raised. So, a transplanted “Southerner.” ;-) My politics are not with the South that is for sure.

  18. zorbear says:

    all over again? You must be a Yankee. As far as the South is concerned, it never ended…

  19. BillFromDover says:

    “And you, I assume, are a brilliant constitutional scholar?”

    Nah, but I understand that a president can not repeal any law by executive order; you know… just the basics.

    Something that you are apparently both proud and ignorant of.

  20. karmanot says:


  21. Butch1 says:

    The Mexicans wouldn’t want them, they have too much pride to want these cravens.

  22. Stev84 says:

    He is also the biggest homophobe in the senate.

  23. Thom Allen says:

    At least there’s some pushback from PA: State Rep. Brian Sims spearheading same-sex marriage and equality and working to get others on board. Kathleen Kane, Atty. General who refused to file suit to stop Montgomery Co. Register of Wills, Bruce Hanes to stop issuing same-sex marriage licenses. The sheeple in the dead states just toe the party line while the Republicons cut their food stamps, health care and Social Security. Gov. Corbett is the most unpopular governor in the US right now, with approval ratings approaching single digits.

  24. Guest says:

    Thanks for the flip reply, creampuff.

  25. Thom Allen says:

    Let’s just cede them all to Mexico. The members of these states have already endeared themselves to the Mexicans by their comments, border patrol antics and other actions. I’m sure that the Mexicans would be ever so happy to repay them. I’ll bet there a lot of fruits and vegetables in Mexico that these throwbacks could help pick.

  26. Thom Allen says:

    Of course, Texas, Oklahoma, Mississippi and Louisiana will all expect these service members to respond to their loving states’ calls when they’re ravaged by tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, fires, drought, mass shootings, other natural and man made disasters. They’ll be expected to work just as diligently as their straight comrades and yet get the shaft when it comes to situations like equality in marriage and benefits.

    I’d consign all of the Republicon politicians there to hell, except that they’re already living in a close approximation thereto.

  27. Butch1 says:

    It would have been interesting if they had succeeded and we just did trade with them instead. We would have saved so much more money instead. Let them support themselves and see if they can. Perhaps they can, I do not know. What I do know is that they certainly drain our economy today and then complain about having to pay taxes and about all “those government give-away programs.” ;-)

  28. Butch1 says:

    This time if we had any sense, we would leave them to themselves. ;-)

  29. The Cool Cookie says:

    The Conservative right has no power unless it has someone to demonize. And these people fall for it.

  30. Thom Allen says:

    No, cretin of the new millennium. And let’s not forget the other candidates: Bachmaniac, Caribou Barbie, frothy, O’Donnell, Boner, Perry and the rest of the morangelicals.

  31. The Cool Cookie says:

    Ob Serious, you cannot command it simply because you believe it so. Yes, Maryland is in the mid Atlantic, but it’s still south of the Mason Dixon line. And where is the “Deep South”? Mississippi and Alabama? Or are they not part of the South, but really Gulf Coast States?
    What makes a state a southern state? Is it slavery? Well, Oklahoma wasn’t formed until 1907. So that knocks it out of the list. Maryland had slavery, and as a border state was able to hold onto it as long possible.

    “Southern” relates to “South” – it’s a direction. And Maryland is south of the Mason Dixion Line. Yes, our politics today are more closely aligned with the progressive New England states, but that is only one way to define a culture.

    What bothers me about all of this is “it or it is not” discussion, and it does have a purpose within the frame of the discussion on the same sex benefit topic is, Maryland ruins the argument that the “Southern” states are evil places that will go out of their way to deny LGBT people of their rights. One cannot condemn ALL southern states to this type of gender irrationality. It’s OK To have an exception. Now take Austin, Texas – it is at odds with the Texas panhandle when it comes to gay rights – does that make it any less southern? In fact, if you are gay and have to be in Texas, Austin is place the go. Yes, Maryland is very different from the deep south, but Western Maryland is more like South Eastern Ohio than Annapolis. And Kentucky, excluding Louisville, is very different than New Orleans.

    Me? Maryland is unlike any other place I have lived. I don’t know if its southern, mid Atlantic or what. But it’s not like Ohio where we moved from, and it certainly isn’t rural Upstate New York.

    My point is, when you create stereotypes with broad brushes, you build walls. And when the facts don’t support illustrations, as in this case, you get these types of side discussions, which maybe need to happen.

  32. karmanot says:

    True, the regressive South sucks out more of our tax dollars than any other. They are leeches on the public dole, because they are decidedly unwilling to address the social and legal contracts of democracy in their states.

  33. karmanot says:

    Hey pipsqueak, I don’t trust anybody under 45.

  34. karmanot says:

    Exactly! No wonder John gets so irritated at times.

  35. karmanot says:

    Yep, with any luck, the regressive South will become two-time losers.

  36. karmanot says:

    True, Ted Cruz is a major danger to congressional democracy. He is a McCarthy in the budding.

  37. karmanot says:

    Obozo doesn’t have the balls and his weakling of an Attorney General doesn’t want controversy.

  38. karmanot says:

    He certainly gives Louie Gohmert a run for cretin of the year award.

  39. karmanot says:

    That works!!!

  40. Butch1 says:

    This is an excellent idea. They make a lot of money off of those bases. Perhaps moving them to states that do not discriminate and that would appreciate the business would show these ignorant and mean republican governors what the consequences of their actions cause in the long run. Let them threaten secession; we would be better off without them when it comes to this.

  41. Butch1 says:

    Let them pay for their bigotry. We really do not have to prop them up if this is how they feel about us and all social issues.

    “You can lead a horses’ ass to water . . .”

  42. Butch1 says:

    It appears as though we are fighting a Civil War all over again.

  43. JayRandal says:

    Having lived in Florida and now in Georgia I have seen firsthand discrimination against Gays. Why the South acts this way really creepy but not surprising. Bible-thumpers as I call them feel threatened by
    Gays since Baptist preachers in particular rail about homosexuals going after their children. Ignorance
    fuels their hatred of Gays. I couldn’t tolerate homophobia in Florida since I got targeted too. So far in Georgia less problems but I live nearby to Atlanta that has robust Gay community. I stay away from bigoted Alabama and South Carolina where Miss Lindsey Graham resides.

  44. Ninong says:

    Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK), a young earth creationist and possibly the dumbest person currently serving in the Senate, represents them well. That’s what I call true representative government!

  45. fletcher says:

    I recall from my youth that when they lowered the voting age to 18, a civics teacher at Fremd High School in Palatine, IL asked his students if they were 18. Nearly all raised their hands. He then asked how many had registered to vote. Only two did. So for the lesson of the day he walked his class to the Palatine Township Voter Registration Office. But the lady who headed the office refused to allow any of them to register. She said she didn’t recognize the amendment to lower the voting age, which she said was wrong, and no amount of cajoling by the teacher would get her to change her mind. When the story made the local newspaper, justice was swift. The lady was discharged immediately and despite some boo-hooing from people who agreed with her she didn’t get the job back. After all, the voting age of 18 was the law. On this matter, the same fate should befall Mary Fallin. A governor takes an oath to uphold the law and what Fallin did was a violation of that oath.

  46. kmcdevitt says:

    ANYbody over 45? That’s a pretty broad brush right there….

  47. The Cool Cookie says:

    I beg to differ. Bloggers dont get a free pass on innacuracy. This is one the reason why so many people in the US believe misinformation they read when they depend on blogs for forming opinions. And no, not all southern states are anti LGBT. Maryland alone has progressed toward equality. NOW, on the issue forcing these state governments to do something about this situation, there are four possible actions. The first is that Federal goverment do nothing. Second option is that the Federal government take over the payments. Neither of these will happen. The first legal option is for a Court to order the states to pay, however they will fight it. This would take the case to the supreme court, and state law cant trump the federal supremacy clause, and this could be the death knell for DOMA in state constitutions. The final option would be for congress to take this on and pass a law to force the states to comply. But we know that wont happen. But I doubt that conservative state legislatures are going to comply without being compelled to do so.

  48. chris10858 says:

    Before moving to a large liberal area here in the South, I grew up in a rural portion of it. One thing I was often asked was, “I heard you were a Democrat. But… I thought you were a Christian?”

    Republicans have warped people’s view of the Bible to conform to their bigotry and racism.

    As far as the issue in John’s article, Obama needs to make this a huge issue and do stump speeches in each of these states. Republicans often use the military as their political tool and go on and on about how they support the military while us Dems don’t.

    Obama can really use this to hurt their image and show them to be the petty, un-American jerks that they really are. When it comes to the military, even most religious conservatives will defer somewhat to this issue. They may not agree with gay marriage but if a soldier needs support, they will often blindly follow the rhetoric. Obama just needs to find a good way to message this appropriately to that audience.

    Plus, Hillary needs to get out there and do this as well. IT’d be a good way for her to bolster her image of a strong defender of the military.

  49. The Cool Cookie says:

    The map he provided includes Maryland. And while he did not mention Maryland, the map implies that we are included in those states denying benefits. Furthermore, I have in Maryland long enough note that half the people say we aren’t a southern state, while half insist we are. If you try and use the border state situation relating to the Civil War, Maryland was a slave holding state, just as Kentucky was, so if they are included, then so should we. HOWEVER , Maryland is the most progressive of Southern states, we do not follow the lead of South Carolina or Texas, we tend chart our own course, and that includes working toward equality for all.

  50. Jim Olson says:

    You know, we’re missing the point here arguing about whether or not Maryland is a southern state, and whether or not John didn’t look closely enough at a stock map he pulled off the internet. The point here is that a state government is directly countermanding a change in Federal law that says that all members of the military are eligible for benefits, regardless of the gender of the person to whom they are married. Seems to me this would warrant action on the part of a court or the President or the Pentagon or someone.

  51. Mike_in_the_Tundra says:

    I do have to disagree with you. Maryland is politically a very progressive state, but it does lie below the Mason-Dixon line. We lived a little north of Baltimore for about nine years. It took me at least three of those years before I got use to being called hon. I once made a mistake of saying I didn’t think Maryland was a Southern state. Half the people at the gathering jumped down my throat. The other half agreed with me.

  52. Ob Serdious says:

    Maryland is politically and culturally part of the Mid-Atlantic, not part of the south. I am offended that your map includes Maryland in this category. Recent votes upheld Same-sex Marriage and The Dream Act in a referendum votes. We passed progressive gun safety legislation when Congress could not. Its time to recognize the cultural change that has taken place since the Civil War.

  53. mononucleosis says:

    I agree wholeheartedly.
    The only thing these cretins understand is a hard hit to the wallet.
    Reactivate or build bases in states that honor the law of the land.Then listen to the Bible thumpers squeal.

  54. lynchie says:

    Stop the flow of all federal monies to Oklahoma. Obama continues to show his lack of interest by not openly criticizing this type of action. As a result everyone on the right is empowered to tell him to GFY and throw shit at him. He is the ultimate Urkell, waits for a handler to tell him if it is ok to speak.

  55. Devin Riley says:

    i blame the governers and the congress men anybody over 45 needs to be stripped of all control and privileges

  56. Blogvader says:


    My argument is that he had the power to do the right thing all along, and chose to let other people do it for him; therefore, he doesn’t deserve credit for it.

  57. goulo says:

    It’s unclear if he’s a coward, or if he’s simply doing what he wants instead of what he says he wants.

    E.g., his refusing to prosecute the previous war crime’s administration is easily explained by his desire for the following administration to reciprocate the favor for his administration’s war crimes.

  58. BeccaM says:

    Um, wow.

  59. BeccaM says:

    Policy: Hate gay people.

    That’s pretty much their policy at this point.

  60. BeccaM says:

    Aye…and Pennsylvania — my home state — unfortunately needs to be assigned to the bigot state column.

  61. BeccaM says:

    Unfortunately social interactions doesn’t translate into legal and civil interactions in these states.

  62. dula says:

    The South shall rise again…like a backed up toilet.

  63. benb says:

    This from a state that let it’s children die because they were waiting for Federal Funds to build tornado safe rooms at their schools. Sheesh…if any state needed an Emergency Manager …OK is the one. Not a lick of common sense in government down there.

  64. Ninong says:

    Approximately 95% of the cost of the National Guard is paid by the federal government, including all regular pay and benefits of guardsmen. All of their equipment, uniforms, ammunition, regular pay — all paid by the federal government. The only time the state pays their pay is when the state activates them for a local disaster (e.g., a hurricane). They almost always apply for federal disaster aid afterwards anyway. If the federal government activates them, the are prohibited from performing police duties, something they are allowed to do when activated by the governor.

    The governor of each state is commander in chief of the National Guard, except when the President activates them, but the President is Commander in Chief of all the U.S. military. And we, the U.S. taxpayers fund them with our tax dollars. I think it’s covered in Title 32 but I don’t feel like looking it up right now. LOL

  65. caphillprof says:

    Maryland has southern counties but it has always been tied in commerce and trade to Pennsylvania.

  66. karmanot says:

    Jan Brewer’s even more evil twin sister.

  67. karmanot says:

    Great idea.

  68. Phil says:

    There’s a simple, effective solution: close the fucking military bases. These bubbas can kiss the associated jobs and money associated with the bases good-bye. In OK’s case, give the whole damned thing back to the Native Americans. Done deal.

  69. Zorba says:

    And you, I assume, are a brilliant constitutional scholar? Not.
    What does the ACA have to do with the repeal of DADT, anyway? Two separate issues.
    And I am not totally enamored of the ACA, anyway. Better than nothing, but a huge give-away for the health insurance industry, it will not cover everyone, and it does not include an affordable public option. Which Obama said in the beginning would be included, but he reneged on that.
    “Self-declared Idiot” right back at you, Bill.

  70. BillFromDover says:

    Just like he was dragged into the passage of the Affordable Care Act?

    And by whom?

  71. BillFromDover says:

    Really… your argument is that he didn’t correct a mistake quick enough for your own liking; and he based it on politics rather than his campaign promises?

    Do we now have a resident mind reader here?

  72. Zorba says:

    Yep, Blogv, you are correct. O. was basically dragged into the repeal of DADT.

  73. Blogvader says:


    Because he had the power to order that they cease enforcement of DADT on his first day in office, that’s why. He just lacked the political will to do so.

  74. BillFromDover says:

    The repeal of don’t ask, don’t tell doesn’t count…why?

  75. BillFromDover says:

    There’s a difference?

  76. BillFromDover says:

    You just wait until the next time Pat has a few too many Bloody Marys and directs God to unleash her next round of global warming induced disasters on these fine, fine Bible belt states.

    Then watch the fuckin’ begging for federal funds commence.


  77. Chris Smith says:

    I live in Oklahoma. Due to my States discrimination I am not able to receive health insurance for myself or my partner. I am not able to legally marry or have it recognized in Oklahoma. Best of all, my auto insurance company, Nationwide Insurance specifically told me I was not eligible for the discount that married couples receive because Oklahoma does not recognize same sex marriage. The Discrimination exists, just try to be “Normal” and you will see.

  78. BillFromDover says:

    Perhaps in a parallel universe?

  79. BillFromDover says:

    So sorry, but no donations left for relief of basic human suffering after tithing – and then some- to the Pats of the world.

    Besides, doesn’t the Bible say something about putting these perverts to death?

  80. Rachell says:

    live in OK, registered voter, not a member of either/any party. As a
    middle aged pre-op MTF Transgender, have been treated with amazing
    respect in all social interactions. (shrugs) … then again, I’m not in the military …

  81. mdreprezent says:

    fix your map, md may be southern but we are proud supporters of marriage equality and a blue state

  82. Monoceros Forth says:

    Do GOP politicians even have policies any more? Do they have any constructive plans for the people? (I suppose that wanting to cut taxes on everyone but the poor counts as a definite policy, maybe, but I think it’s really more of a habit. Calling it a policy is like saying that an alcoholic has a policy of buying Popov vodka.) It’s all just childish contradiction with them. They’re not legislators, they’re bratty children throwing tantrums because they don’t get Big Macs for dinner every night.

  83. Steve says:

    Oaklahoma didn’t mind after we helped them when the bomb went off and they prayed for help when the tornadoes hit and didn’t seem to mind if the money came from sexual minorities. It must be easy to take money from people you hate, certainly easier than to give some back. Next time shit happens there ask the Republican National Committee to send money down and ask the fundamentalist christians for donations

  84. mike31c says:

    So basically what is being said is if you are LGBT in the National Guard in hillbilly states, you need to leave or transfer to the US Reserves… Sad and pathetic these red-state hicks dismiss the sacrifices their National Guard members has made in the name of their bigoted beliefs.

  85. Stev84 says:

    They just need to stop funding the National Guard. All their equipment, installations, buildings, as well as way over 90% of the operating costs are paid for by the federal government.

  86. Steve says:

    Easy solution for this problem: WithHold all federal funds, all everything, no welfare, medicaid, medicare, transportation, student loans which float their bigoted higher learning centers, open the doors at the federal correctional facilities, no more aid after natural disasters where they ask the very same people they would discriminate against to serve them. Withhold it all and when their infrastructure collapses under their the weight or their bigotry, maybe the next generation of southern politicians will use more common sense and not place their racist religious beliefs in front of the constitution.

  87. Stev84 says:

    “Segregation today. Segregation tomorrow. Segregation forever!”

  88. pricknick says:

    He’s a coward on may things. Look at the banks and war criminals,

  89. heimaey says:

    I don’t think he tried to include MD on purpose (it’s probably just a standard map he grabbed from wikipedia or something).
    I’m from MD and we do not consider it a southern state, however, many do as it’s south of the Mason-Dixon line.

  90. The Cool Cookie says:

    Hold onto your hatred, Mr. Avarosis. Your little map is correct in including Maryland as a southern state, BUT, Maryland is not part of the states withholding benefits for same sex married couples. No, Maryland is the ONLY southern state to enjoy equal rights if your are LGBT.

  91. karmanot says:

    The Law to CIC and President “Our military families should not be left vulnerable to the prejudice of state governors, and the Defense Department must use its control of federal funds to stop this discrimination.” Get off your ass OBozo.

  92. UncleBucky says:

    What if the South had won the “war”?

    Yes, and if they did, they wouldn’t be concerned strictly with slavery, but they would have done everything the NAZIs did, all right, but more sweetly and cheerfully!

  93. cole3244 says:

    white as rice is all the gopers have left.

  94. drdick52 says:

    They actually were part of it, as represented by the Indian Nations who joined with them during the Civil War.

  95. nobonesl says:

    Obama seems clearly intimidated by the harsh language that would be directed at him if he supported Gay Rights unequivocally.

  96. drdick52 says:

    As a native of that state (long removed from there, however), I would expect no less. After all, it was Sen. Tom Coburn, M.D., of that state who warned us of the dangers of rampant, widespread lesbian rape in the school restrooms of overwhelmingly rural and backward southeast Oklahoma

  97. Blogvader says:


    Obama won’t do anything for LGBT people until he’s dragged kicking and screaming across the finish line.

  98. nobonesl says:

    Oklahoma is buckin’ to join The ‘Ole Confederacy.

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