Catholic, Episcopal leaders in Liberia: Ebola is God’s punishment for “penetrating homosexualism”

Continuing their descent into some rather un-Christian actions, Catholic and Episcopal leaders in the west African state of Liberia signed on to a resolution that blames gays for the recent Ebola outbreak in the region.

Specifically, Archbishop of the Catholic Church of Liberia, Lewis Zeigler, and other church leaders came up with the notion that God is punishing Liberia for being too gay.

But they’re hoping that three days of fasting will help God get over his retributive homophobia.

(UPDATE: Apparently there’s some confusion as to the use of Episcopal vs Anglican. Yes, Episcopal is the US branch, but the Liberians apparently never got the message, as Episcopal is the term they use in their own article linked to in the story. So feel free to have a chat with them :)

Here’s their resolution:

That God is angry with Liberia, and that Ebola is a plague. Liberians have to pray and seek God’s forgiveness over the corruption and immoral acts (such as homosexualism, etc.) that continue to penetrate our society.

As Christians, we must repent and seek God’s forgiveness.

That a three-day indoor fast and prayer across the nation be observed, commencing next Wednesday, August 6th, and concluding Friday, August 8th.

That an inter-denominational committee be constituted to present said resolution to government.

That if government is in agreement, the Republic of Liberia be locked up for three days of fast and prayer. All movement should be restricted during those three days. People should stay at home for three days of silence, fasting and prayer.

Homosexualism. That’s a new one. (And don’t even get me started on “penetrate.”)

Of course, this wasn’t the first time the Catholic leadership in Liberia tried to blame gays for Ebola.  Zeigler had this to say earlier this year:

Archbishop-Lewis-ZieglerOne of the major transgressions against God for which He may be punishing Liberia, according to Archbishop Ziegler, is the act of homosexuality.

The Archbishop said Liberians are “whole-heartedly” engaging themselves in this act and that is being promoted in the country.

The Catholic Archbishop also stated: “Where are we going as Liberians if we are advocating for homosexuality? Are we not calling for curses upon ourselves? How will a man marry his fellow man, this is an abomination. These are the same things that brought down Sodom and Gomorrah.”

The thing is, I get that the Catholics and the Anglicans are increasingly distraught over the fact their membership is decreasing in developed countries. But is it really wise to align the church with the theological equivalent of witch doctors? No sane religious leader talks about God striking entire countries down with a plague because he’s mad at the gays.

And this isn’t the first time we’ve had to deal with rogue Catholic and Anglican leaders around the globe.  Whether it’s a Catholic cardinal in the Dominican Republic calling the American ambassador the Spanish equivalent of a “f*g,” simply because the ambassador is gay, or the Anglican leader in Nigeria who called gay marriage a “Holocaust,” things have gotten a tad out of hand in a very un-Christian way.

Then again, the head of the entire Anglican Church earlier this spring said that Anglicans simply must discriminate against gays, lest anyone misinterpret a show of tolerance as evidence that the Anglicans themselves are gay, and then they might get gay-bashed. (I am not making this up.)

So, perhaps the church in Africa is simply taking its orders from headquarters.

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100 Responses to “Catholic, Episcopal leaders in Liberia: Ebola is God’s punishment for “penetrating homosexualism””

  1. i read that book! it’s called “the dead will arise” and it’s really, really sad. a little girl had a dream about the ‘spirits.’ they told her what they wanted, and she got the whole tribe to do it, because religion. first, they killed all the cattle who still survived. to please the spirits and make them give them more cattle. then they started killing “witches.” eventually, the whole area starved to death and the few who survived had to be relocated by the british. it’s a horrible account of how religion warps human society.

  2. Drew2u says:

    Here, have some good news:

    “Zahed studied psychology and anthropology and began working for an aid organization. At 30, he went on a business trip to Pakistan and reflected for the first time on his life and whether he was good person or not. A short time later, while in a hotel room, he sank to his knees and began praying.

    He also began reading the Koran again. He didn’t come across a single sura in it condeming homosexuality. What he did find, though, were plenty of homoerotic poems in classic Arab literature. He then founded HM2F, an association for gay and lesbian Muslims in France.”

  3. Leslie Gray says:

    Hence the need to even believe in a devil at all.

  4. Leslie Gray says:

    I have yet to find a single evangelical/conservative in the US that actually understands the events that proceeded the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. This long standing error is the very foundation of evangelical/conservative homophobia.

  5. rmthunter says:

    And you’re taking that as supporting Graham in general? Oh, brother!

  6. MJ says:

    “As for Franklin Graham and the organization that sponsored Brantly, I make no judgements. Even the likes of Graham can do some good in the world.”

  7. Butch1 says:

    Yes, though I was referring to the rhetoric and disinformation that was prevalent about us gays back then. (e.g. hanging around the children’s playgrounds in long trench coats, limp-wrist-ed, light in the loafers, and all the other stereotypes, etc.) Most of all that has been debunked and most thinking people know better.

  8. rmthunter says:

    Do give us a quote — I can hardly wait to read your interpretation.

  9. MJ says:

    Not nope. Yup. Anybody can go to the Ann Coulter thread and read your statement re. Graham and Samaritan’s Purse.

  10. rmthunter says:

    Thirty years ago? Try right now.

    It’s a time-honored Judaeo-Christian tradition — scapegoating.

  11. rmthunter says:

    Nope. Never said I did.

  12. diepiriye says:

    Well, somebody had to say it. Missing girls but they found a group of lesbians to persecute. Horrible public health system that allows this Ebola to spread, yet only a few months ago the leaders were so animately pre-occupied with passing the draconian homophobic law. If I followed that logic, I would certainly think that Nigeria is being punished by the lord (but I would never follow a faith with a deity that commits genocide and, worse, couches it as a life lesson).

  13. diepiriye says:

    I know. I hear more Christians talking about death, and wishing others a horrible death and hellfire afterlife than anyone else on the planet.

  14. MJ says:

    But you support Rev. Franklin Graham spreading such beliefs (this time, evangelist, not Catholic) in African countries??

  15. MJ says:

    But you support Rev. Franklin Graham spreading those ideas!!

  16. Butch1 says:

    Many thanks.

  17. Moderator3 says:

    CeesSlob is referring to what many feel is occult beliefs. You can translate it in a Dutch to English translator.

  18. Butch1 says:

    They sound just like our hateful fundamentalists of thirty years ago.

  19. Butch1 says:

    How about English next; I know you can speak it besides Afrikaner, if that is the correct way to describe your language. ( I may be wrong with that as well.)

  20. Butch1 says:

    Ignorant heathens pretending to be “men of god.” When will the Anglican Church divorce itself from this homophobic, hateful branch once and for all? They are an embarrassment and this fundamental right wing branch wanted to leave their mother church a few years back. The Archbishop should have let them start their hateful branch divorcing them being done with their hateful nonsense, but taking their name from them as well. ;-)

  21. mtblaze says:

    So what did Liberia do to deserve the plague of Catholic/Anglican leaders?

  22. Jason Ishing says:

    You wanna suck Sabyen91 pud don’t you? Tell him, he is gay, he will be cool with it.

  23. ohbillsav says:

    I am a christian.Christ died for our sins,so that we may enter paradise.I should also mention that my statements are based on faith and belief.Neither of those things should be public policy.God set the world in motion,and those whose souls and spirits are worthy will know him when they pass.These “religious leaders are delusional.Mankind are not pcs. of a large chess board that GOD manipulates each day.These leaders do not know christ,and as he said when he walked this earth “I know you not”.He did not like these schmucks either.

  24. RNegron says:

    God is notorious for her bad aim.

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  27. Ninong says:

    Okay, maybe the word “witchdoctor” was unnecessary but his advice that “fasting is the medicine that cures every sickness, including the deadly disease Ebola” was not only ignorant, it was harmful to the effort by the medical authorities to combat the spread of this deadly disease.

    I may have a bias against the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in Africa because of their open hostility and animosity toward gay people, whom they call homosexuals and equate with pedophiles. In fact, Peter Cardinal Turkson, who was the most recent African favorite to be the “next pope” said that the reason they are unlikely to have a sex scandal of the kind the church was experiencing elsewhere was because homosexuality is “not countenanced in African cultures.” He also reacted to the UN call for African countries to show respect for the equal rights of homosexuals by saying that the UN Secretary General was confusing “equal rights” with “moral issues.” Remember, this is the guy who previously compared homosexuality with “adultery and other sins.” And he’s one of the more temperate ones.

    The most extreme one is Francis Cardinal Arinze, who is still pissed that he wasn’t elected pope after the death of JPII. He has been even more outspoken in his hostility toward gays. That’s one of the reasons he is literally freaking out now that Pope Francis has spoken out in favor of a more tolerant and inclusive approach toward gays as well as those who do not hold the same views on abortion as the church. That was just too much for Cardinal Arinze. He is now speaking out openly against the Pope, something unheard of in the past.

    “All of this talk of love and tolerance is hollow if we have no identity of our own, if we stand for nothing. I charge that Francis has become a heretic, and that he is not a valid Pope. Indeed, Francis is no longer even a Catholic. The seat of Saint Peter is vacant. I am now a Sedevacantist. I should have become one long ago. The Vatican has embraced ecumenism in the past, but worse than that, it has now embraced moral relativism on abortion and homosexuality.” — Francis Cardinal Arinze, responding to some of Pope Francis’ most recent statements about “not judging” and being “more inclusive.”

    These guys (the Catholic Cardinals in Africa) are the ones who looked the other way when their priests raped nuns, when their priests took wives and/or concubines disguised as “housekeepers.” One of them (I forgot which one, so I won’t drop names) even has the nickname “Naomi.” I’ll let you guess why, but just say that the hypocrisy of the closet is disgusting whether coming from a Republican closet case or one in the church hierarchy. If you’re old enough to remember, Francis Cardinal Spellman’s nickname was “Franny,” for the same reason.

    One of the other African cardinals is famous for saying that it was the white Europeans who introduced “homosexualism” to Africa. It was unknown before the arrival of the whites. Turkson said virtually the same thing when he said the “homosexuality is not countenanced in African cultures,” which is why they won’t have a problem with priestly sex abuse of minors like the church in America or Europe or the other Western countries. He equates pedophilia with homosexuality. Is he just plain ignorant or wilfully ignorant?

  28. Reasor says:

    I hope I’m not the only one who sees the use of terms like “witch doctor” by white people talking about African theocrats more than a little problematic.

    A con artist is a con artist, and a theocrat is a theocrat. We don’t need special racist dog whistle perjoratives to discuss these assholes when they happen to live and work in Africa.

  29. Mike F says:

    If my adolescent-age reading of the Inferno is correct, there is in fact a special place in hell for prelates, priests, cardinals, monsignors, et al. Too bad I don’t believe in their Magic Sky Being, or hell.

  30. Mike F says:

    Lest one succumb to the mal aria.

  31. Mike F says:

    In an article about a decade ago, it was explained why the Anglican Church has this weird split-personality with regards to public pronouncements. It seems that they like to appoint a conservative for the specified time period, and then a liberal one the next go-round. I guess the conservatives have the floor this time. Sheeeeesh…

  32. future_man says:

    Long live Baba!

  33. kingstonbears says:

    And yet another so-called leader who hasn’t got Sodom and Gomorrah sorted out. Definitely NOT reading the same version of the bible that I am.

  34. goulo says:

    Mysterious ways, dude, mysterious ways!

    You can’t expect God to explain all the details of his punishment methods to us peons! He’s a busy guy!

    Besides, maybe he wanted it to be a surprise. Like how no one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

  35. Houndentenor says:

    So then why would the Ebola strike gays and atheists more than Christians?

  36. TampaZeke says:

    Truth be told, even Christianity arose from Egypt.

  37. TampaZeke says:

    Egypt is African geographically but not racially or culturally. Racially and culturally Egypt is almost completely associated with the Middle East of Asia. They have more in common with Syria, Jordan, Palestine and even Israel than they do with Liberia, Nigeria, Ghana or any other African country besides perhaps Ethiopia or the North African countries on the Mediterranean.

  38. TampaZeke says:

    It’s inaccurate to say that African Anglican churches are “completely independent”. They are a part of the Anglican communion. They are highly participatory in the international synods and they have been highly influential in scaring the CofE into moving very slowly on social issues, most especially gay rights and gay participation in the Church. The CofE is always hyper-sensitive to, and overly concerned about, alienating the Southern, particularly African, churches.

  39. TampaZeke says:

    Exactly! And heaven forbid that you be gay, foreign, physically deformed and pagan! I didn’t say “uppity lesbian” because, as we all know, in these historic, hyper-patriarchal societies, lesbians (uppity or otherwise) didn’t exist. Apparently lesbians weren’t invented until sometime in the 1960’s. That whole Island of Lesbos thing was just a story in the fantasy section of Penthouse magazine. :)

  40. dommyluc says:

    Yes, that mindset worked oh-so-well during the 1300s, when the Black Plague was ravaging Europe and killing both prelates and non-believers indiscriminately. I can only hope there is an Internet video of Zeigler when his organs begin to melt and blood starts squirting out of his eyeballs. Call me bloodthirsty if you will, but I hope that sanctimonious, homophobic witch doctor suffers the tortures of the damned. Good luck, people of Africa. Keep following the words of these theocratic assholes and you doom yourselves to certain death. Maybe instead of distributing Bibles to the people of Africa during this ebola crisis, we should start distributing copies of “The Masque of the Red Death” by Edgar Allen Poe.

  41. caphillprof says:

    It’s not really about the wealth.

  42. caphillprof says:

    Monotheism first arose in Egypt, which is African.

  43. caphillprof says:

    You don’t need to associate with other churches, when they are such assholes.

  44. caphillprof says:

    I object. Other Episcopalians need to call out these Episcoplians and by God shun them.

  45. caphillprof says:

    That is true only as far as church governance. However, WHEN ANY CHRISTIAN TALKS HE TALKS FOR ALL and it is the deafening silence of the other Christians that confirms this.

  46. caphillprof says:

    I thought he concentrated all his attention and time on the Mexican border.

  47. caphillprof says:

    The bullies of ignorance and greed. Christianity is nothing more nor less than Satanic.

  48. rmthunter says:

    Same logic: Ebola is God’s punishment on West Africa for its rampant homophobia.

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  51. FieryLocks says:


  52. Colin says:

    ‘Out here in the fields
    I fight for my meals
    I get my back into my living.

    I don’t need to fight
    To prove I’m right
    I don’t need to be forgiven.’ Baba O’Riley

  53. BeccaM says:

    Yep, it’s right up there with bleeding to try to ‘balance the bodily humours.’

  54. Ninong says:

    “Fasting is the medicine that cures every sickness, including the deadly disease Ebola”. – Archbishop Lewis J. Ziegler, April 10, 2014.

    With idiotic witchdoctor statements like that is it any wonder many of the people in Liberia and the other African countries dealing with this deadly disease refuse to cooperate with the advice of the actual medical professionals.

  55. DRoseDARs says:

    Considering this major outbreak of Ebola is coinciding with a major outbreak of anti-gay sentiment and legislation in Africa…

  56. crazymonkeylady says:

    Pray Away The Virus? I don’t think so…

  57. Ninong says:

    Remember when the previous pope abdicated and all the talk was about whether a certain African cardinal would be the next pope? If I remember correctly, even the Irish bookies had him as the odds-on favorite at one point. Then people started digging into his previous writings and speeches, as well as those of his peers, and discovered some of the strangest things.

    For instance, we learned that homosexuality didn’t exist in Africa before the European colonial powers introduced it there. It was unknown, according to no less an authority than a Prince of the Church, a supposedly learned man. One of his colleagues, a senior African cardinal, scolded the United Nations that it should not try to inflict its Western notion of morality on the good people of Africa, who knew better. That was because the UN Secretary General said African countries should respect the “equal rights” of all people, including even homosexual people. The Catholic cardinals of Africa considered that an unwelcome intrusion in their internal affairs.

    I guess it would have been a bit too much to have expected them to say anything bad about European religion that was brought to Africa by the European invaders.

  58. Ninong says:

    Because one was a doctor and the other was a nurse. The disease is spread by close contact with bodily fluids: mucus, saliva, blood and semen. It’s hard to diagnose before the symptoms are obvious. Early symptoms are similar to symptoms of many other diseases.

    Even if the patient survives and appears to have fully recovered, he is still capable of spreading the disease, especially via sexual intercourse, because the virus may remain viable in the testes up to six weeks after the patient has recovered.

    Medical workers come into contact with the bodily fluids of the sick patients they treat constantly. The general population comes into close contact in all sorts of ways. It doesn’t help that most of these outbreaks begin in rural villages where the inhabitants sometimes refuse to even allow Western medicine to be admitted.

  59. starship_captain says:

    Faith is not superstition. They might as well be making sacrifices to some volcano god.

  60. PLAINTOM says:

    He’s 6,000 years old, his eyesight is failing and he is way too vain to wear glasses.

  61. Colin says:

    And in many of those witchcraft cases the property was forfeit to the Church.

  62. BeccaM says:

    …and all the places that have these outbreaks are, in fact, among the most virulently (no pun intended ) anti-gay.

  63. BeccaM says:

    You mean like those “Days of Prayer” Governor Rick “GoodHair” Perry ordered last year to help end the Texas drought? Or how our own Supreme Court ruled with five votes in favor of saying it doesn’t matter if your beliefs regarding contraception are contrary to reality, all that matters is you believe they cause abortions?

    Sadly, ignorance and superstition aren’t limited to just the African continent…

  64. BeccaM says:

    No, it’s not new at all, you’re right. Gays, ‘uppity’ women, foreigners, people of minority religions, the physically deformed — all were convenient scapegoats over the centuries.

  65. BeccaM says:

    You ever read the Bible and other texts from that era? Slavery, women as ‘unclean’ chattel, deity-ordered genocide — all that preceded the Iron Age.

    We were savage then, and many of us have retained that savagery. Really when you get down to it, the only difference between the Bronze and Iron Ages is the weapons held their sharpened edges better.

  66. Lawerence Collins says:

    Reminds me of the Aids episode of Designing Women, where Julia lays into that homophobe woman. If god was hanging out diseases for sinning, we’d all be at the free clinic!

  67. cambridgemac says:

    Strictly speaking it was monotheism that the west inflicted. Religion was not new to Africa. And historically, monotheism and it’s modern offshoots, genocidal imperialism and totalitarianism, have been in a league all their own.

  68. emjayay says:

    Exactly. The Episcopal Church may be decentralized, but the Roman Catholic one certainly isn’t. Is he the New Pope or not?

  69. cambridgemac says:

    He has the same moral code as our 1%. The blew up the economy then went on blathering about how austerity (punishing the poor and the middle class) was good for us.

  70. emjayay says:

    Wonder why the really gay places – like all of North America and Europe for example, don’t have any ebola?

  71. cambridgemac says:

    I believe the Bronze Age was actually more civilized than this. Patriarchy got its footing in the iron age.

  72. TampaZeke says:

    Ann Coulter gave the good Christian answer to that question today. It’s because they should have been in America ministering to Americans. Hope that clears things up.

  73. TampaZeke says:

    Their god wiped out New Orleans to punish Massachusetts for gay marriage and leveled a town in Missouri to punish New York; so I guess the answer to your question would be, a god with REALLY bad aim!

  74. TampaZeke says:

    If you let him draw you down to his level of fear and hate, he wins. Don’t give him the satisfaction. Challenge darkness with LIGHT! Challenge fear and hatred with PEACE and LOVE! Karma will sort it all out.

  75. FLL says:

    And the world famous art collection in the Vatican worth who knows how much money.

  76. TampaZeke says:

    Gays have ALWAYS been the witches, no matter what the age! The Torah, The Bible, the Qur’an and real history books prove that gays were always the “outsider”, the vulnerable “other” who was the scapegoat for society’s ills. This is not something new.

  77. Ninong says:

    “That if government is in agreement, the Republic of Liberia be locked up for three days of fast and prayer. All movement should be restricted during those three days. People should stay at home for three days of silence, fasting and prayer.”

    This is the ‘modern’ African version of a rain dance — ignorance and superstition at its finest on display.

  78. MJ says:

    Forget it, Jake. It’s Africa.

  79. Hue-Man says:

    So to put it in franchising terms, don’t worry about your BurgerStore franchise in Chicago just because the Asian franchisees are buying dangerous beef from an unethical supplier. People may be poisoned as they leave those stores but don’t worry because they’re still paying their franchise fees to head office in London. Head Office isn’t going to do anything about the tainted hamburger because it might reflect poorly on Head Office and on the franchise holders outside China. What’s a few dead and dying customers when they’re so far away from London? Don’t worry, be happy.

    The CofE brand has been completely tarnished by the gay-hating African churches and by the hypocritical non-response from successive Archbishops of Canterbury, blaming the Canadians and Americans for doing the right thing on marriage equality and women priests and bishops!

  80. emjayay says:

    I like the buildings.

  81. goulo says:

    In fairness to the ignorant hateful bigot, it seems like he didn’t actually imply that ebola was an STD; he only said that ebola was how God happened to be punishing the country for not being mean enough to gay people.

    I.e. it could have been a plague of locusts, or a flood, or nothing but bad disco music on the radio all day, but God rolled His punishment wheel and randomly picked ebola this time. Next time, who knows? He works in mysterious ways, I hear!

  82. Bill_Perdue says:

    This is a clear and direct incitement to violence. American evangelical cults run by scum like Pat Robertson, Rick Warren, who read the invocation at Obama’s inaugural, Scott Lively, guilty of crimes against humanity and Donnie McClurkin, who ran a series of tent revivals for Obama will all be pleased. These cults promote violence against us here and in Africa.

    Our goals with regard to these cult should be to demand that the DoJ prosecute them for interfering in the internal affairs of other countries and as an international conspiracy to economically exploit and sensually abuse women, youth and children.

    Right now we’re paying their taxes and subsidizing their promotion of anti-gay violence. That has to stop. We should push to tax them until they collapse.

    This isn’t the first time that roman and anglican cultists have stooped this low. Almost a decade ago the roman cult archbishop in Maputo, Mozambique did his level best to help the spread of HIV and AIDS. “The head of the Catholic Church in Mozambique has told the BBC he believes some European-made condoms are infected with HIV deliberately. Maputo Archbishop Francisco Chimoio claimed some anti-retroviral drugs were also infected “in order to finish quickly the African people”.

  83. BeccaM says:

    In another time, when people got sick or some cattle died or a well dried up, what happened was they’d find somebody the locals didn’t like. They’d declare this person to be a ‘witch’ or a practitioner of black magic — and then kill them in some of the most horrible ways imaginable. When the disease or famine or drought continued, they’d conclude they just hadn’t killed enough witches and look around for some more.

    Today’s gays are now the witches, and these Bronze Age throwbacks feel there must be burnings — metaphorical, if not literal — to appease their bloodthirsty war god.

  84. Don Chandler says:

    But it does illustrates the problem of religion. Do the different churches use the same bible? Similar bible? If so, how could that bible inspire such irreconcilable philosophies? The answer is the Bible is subject to different interpretations/translations/bugs and given to fragmentation. It’s a huge PR problem for all these churches. It’s the problem of Christianity: the bible can becomes a weapon subject to the whims of tyrants like a Zeigler.

    Like yourself, I feel sympathetic to the these progressive Churches in the US–Not so much the Catholics as they continue to label gays as sinners…oh, sinners that they happen to love ofc and they want to micromanage. The Catholics also talk out of both sides of the mouth in a vain attempt to promote unity. They never fix the bugs in their dogma…like not letting a woman like Katharine Jefferts Schori into their decision making hierarchies. Yeah, I’m sympathetic and realize the PR issue. I guess these churches should speak out and distinguish themselves from folks like Zeigler…that could never happen in the Catholic Church.

  85. PeteWa says:

    Archbishop Ziegler, I wish there was a hell for you to go to when you die.

    I also wish for all of the bad things in the world to happen to you before you are sent to that imaginary hell.
    with love, PeteWa

  86. Indigo says:

    It’s so much more fun when real Christians get their Inquisition on. It helps illustrate what a malicious joke their religion is.

  87. bkmn says:

    Perhaps Pope Francis needs to talk to him.

  88. Houndentenor says:

    Exactly. The biggest danger with Ebola is to health care workers who need to take the highest precautions in treating the patients. It’s not an STD so not only is this “bishop” a hateful bigot, he’s also ignorant of what the disease is and how it’s spread. Shame on him. He should talk to some medical people so that he is relaying accurate information to anyone who takes his superstitious nonsense seriously.

  89. Ryan says:

    The condemnation of homosexuality is an evil inflicted on Africa by colonization.

  90. goulo says:

    What, as if religion didn’t exist in Africa before westerners colonized Africa? But yeah, the particular religion inflicted sure didn’t help things.

  91. goulo says:

    Clearly because they were busy helping sick people instead of asking for God’s forgiveness. Plus they were making God angry by helping a land which still isn’t sufficiently nasty to those evil homosexuals.

  92. EyeTee says:

    Can I just correct a misperception. There is not a head of the Anglican Church, like the Pope, because there is not an Anglican church. There is a loose confederation of independent churches with a shared Anglican heritage, called the Anglican Communion, of which the Archbishop of Canterbury, the head of the Church of England , is a figurehead. But he has no authority over the individual churches and he speaks for himself. (You’ll get no argument that the current Abp, Justin Welby has said some very stupid things. But he carries no authority outside the CHurch of England.) Likewise the Anglican bishop in Uganda is speaking for his church, NOT Anglicans/Episcopalians worldwide.

    Let’s remember that our own US Episocpal Church is gay supportive, with openly LGBT bishops and priests. I even attended a Big Gay Wedding in an Episcopal Cathedral not so long ago (and yes, it was fabulous. ;-) The (US) Presiding Bishop, Katharine Jefferts Schori, has made clear statements supporting LGBT rights and opposing legislation that criminalizes homosexuality.

  93. Dave of the Jungle says:

    So, why did the Christian Missionaries become infected?

  94. toujoursdan says:

    Well, the Episcopal Church in Liberia is completely independent of the Episcopal Church in the U.S. Both are completely independent of the Church of England. National churches don’t have much influence over the policies of other national churches. The British and African Episcopalians didn’t want the U.S. to ordain gay bishops but we did anyway and, apart from a lot of sturm und drang, nothing happened.

    Unlike in Catholicism, the only thing that ties Episcopalians/Anglicans in different countries together is a common history (British colonialism) and these days even that isn’t enough. The African Anglicans think we (that is, US, Canadian and New Zealand Episcopalians) are all raving sodomites bound for hell.

  95. FLL says:

    So many of these church leaders do have a wardrobe and general appearance that’s just a bit fey.

  96. Peter says:

    Ah the evils inflicted on Africa by the “civilized” west. No, I’m not talking about homosexuality, I am talking about religion.

  97. Colin says:

    I dislike the religion but I am crazy about the clothes. ‘]

  98. FLL says:

    I’ve never been attracted to any form of Christianity. I’ll go along with probably over half of the U.S. population in being functionally secular. I’m defining “functionally secular” as the absence of regular church attendance. For your amusement, gentle reader, here’s a link to an article whose findings indicate that the percentage of U.S. church attendance reported by pollsters like Gallup (40%) is actually twice the amount of actual church attendance:

    That means that secular America is a majority of anywhere between 60% and 80%. Having said that, I certainly appreciate the contributions progressive Christians have made, and that includes those in the Church of England. So how can the Archbishop of Canterbury remain while the Anglican archbishop of Nigeria? And how can Pope Francis square his intention to promote tolerance with the statements of Archbishop Ziegler of Liberia, statements that might very well be regarded and prosecuted as hate speech in the European Union? It looks like these European church leaders are prostituting themselves for the purpose of increasing church membership in Africa, something their probably keen on doing since church attendance in the industrialized world is plummeting.

  99. 2karmanot says:

    When the stop wearing the expensive drag and fabulous accessories, I’ll take notice.

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